Ok, I'm just a partner but this was my 1st and only race horse. She's been running in claiming races for over a yr. and I'd long ago stopped worrying about it. I just assumed we'd eventually retire her and she'd come to live with me and be bred. I've never heard of the new trainer, or owner, but they'd also claimed another of my trainer's horses a few days b4. He swears he doesn't know them. Anyway, I'm just devastated and will try every way I know to keep up with her.How do you cope with your horse being claimed?
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How do you cope with your horse being claimed?
Ok, I'm just a partner but this was my 1st and only race horse. She's been running in claiming races for over a yr. and I'd long ago stopped worrying about it. I just assumed we'd eventually retire her and she'd come to live with me and be bred. I've never heard of the new trainer, or owner, but they'd also claimed another of my trainer's horses a few days b4. He swears he doesn't know them. Anyway, I'm just devastated and will try every way I know to keep up with her."Most people hate the taste of beer to begin with. It is, however, a prejudice that many people have been able to overcome."-Winston Churchill
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Toadie,
We are at opposite ends of the spectrum, I have a filly I would be breaking out the champagne if she got claimed, followed by sending the new connections a bouqet of flowers and best wishes.
She was advertised in stablewatch under the topic of "Anyone wish your horse got claimed" (though I see after the 6th in Hastings this afternoon we are still the registered owners... is it illegal to forge a claim????).
We are at opposite ends of the spectrum, I have a filly I would be breaking out the champagne if she got claimed, followed by sending the new connections a bouqet of flowers and best wishes.
She was advertised in stablewatch under the topic of "Anyone wish your horse got claimed" (though I see after the 6th in Hastings this afternoon we are still the registered owners... is it illegal to forge a claim????).
Gotta keep on Keepin on - Joe Dirt
dray33 wrote:Claim her back.
That was my 1st thought, but it depends on what level they run her at. Also, I'm told the owner and trainer aren't from this area, so if they ship her across country it will be more of a deterrent.
"Most people hate the taste of beer to begin with. It is, however, a prejudice that many people have been able to overcome."-Winston Churchill
Rokeby Forever wrote:Claim another.
Probably sound advice, but I want HER!!!!!!! Can you hear the whine in my voice. I just went to the fridge and got some cheese.
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Win and loose it, claim another. I agree with Roke. Move on. claim another that might have sale value that increases (atleast for a start or two) cash flow and entices someone to claim it as well.
They aren't pets. we know that going in. If you are going to loose your horse or know you are to loose your horse then don't run in claiming races. It is that simple.
I have always found it ironic when claiming horse trainers bitch and moan and swear revenge when ever someone claims a horse off of them. How do they think they got 1/2 of the horses in their barns?
Claiming is a great way to improve stock and weed out what you don't want in your barn for a long time. Horses that "fit" in a claiming race are there for a reason. Maybe they lack talent, or have isues that prevent them from trying to their fullest. Whatever the case running and winning is what this game is about. Even if it is a maiden $5,000 AND you loose the horse in victory. Turn over often = profit.
They aren't pets. we know that going in. If you are going to loose your horse or know you are to loose your horse then don't run in claiming races. It is that simple.
I have always found it ironic when claiming horse trainers bitch and moan and swear revenge when ever someone claims a horse off of them. How do they think they got 1/2 of the horses in their barns?
Claiming is a great way to improve stock and weed out what you don't want in your barn for a long time. Horses that "fit" in a claiming race are there for a reason. Maybe they lack talent, or have isues that prevent them from trying to their fullest. Whatever the case running and winning is what this game is about. Even if it is a maiden $5,000 AND you loose the horse in victory. Turn over often = profit.
Proverbs 31:8
"...stand up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all those who are destitute.."
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"...stand up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all those who are destitute.."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIASWv9GYC8
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Toadie, my heart goes out to you.
I have a very small portion in the partnership of a filly (it's the only way that I can possibly fulfill a life-long dream to be involved in Thoroughbred racing). I enjoy her so much--she has a terrific personality and she's so smart and willing to work. I LOVE the experiences she has afforded me--there's nothing like watching the sun come up during morning work outs, hanging out at the barn, "picking" my trainer's brain (I'm fortunate to have a very patient trainer who appreciates the value of working with and educating "newbies"), talking with other owners and trainers, researching stallions for a future breeding and, of course, the thrill of race day!
The mere thought of having her claimed down the line has my heart in my throat. I do know that this is a business--I know that my partners regard her as an investment, but, to me, she's as much "my horse" as my grade mare that I've had for many years.
Is there a chance that you can re-claim your mare? If not, I hope she has a fine career and good owners. All the best to you.
I have a very small portion in the partnership of a filly (it's the only way that I can possibly fulfill a life-long dream to be involved in Thoroughbred racing). I enjoy her so much--she has a terrific personality and she's so smart and willing to work. I LOVE the experiences she has afforded me--there's nothing like watching the sun come up during morning work outs, hanging out at the barn, "picking" my trainer's brain (I'm fortunate to have a very patient trainer who appreciates the value of working with and educating "newbies"), talking with other owners and trainers, researching stallions for a future breeding and, of course, the thrill of race day!
The mere thought of having her claimed down the line has my heart in my throat. I do know that this is a business--I know that my partners regard her as an investment, but, to me, she's as much "my horse" as my grade mare that I've had for many years.
Is there a chance that you can re-claim your mare? If not, I hope she has a fine career and good owners. All the best to you.
Hi Toadie,
Cut the umbilical cord! You're a car without breaks (an impending accident) if you're so emotionally involved with a horse that you don't want her claimed.
Rokeby is right, lose her and claim another.
If you can't make the decision to race a horse where they can win then you're not doing any service for yourself. Understand the ramifiations of where you race your horse and know that she may be claimed.
If the mare has worth as a broodmare then set a minimum level at which you'll race her and retire her to the shed when she's not able to compete any longer.
I have to disagree with Dray, I don't claim back. If I lost her it's at a level equal or greater than her value. I retire and breed or sell mares that have value. Buying back and breeding a mare because you have emotional feelings for the horse is a poor recipe for success. Chances are she was bleeding you before and chances are that she'll continue doing so if you keep and breed a mare based on emotional attachments.
I follow with interest all the careers on the track and in the shed of every horse that I've owned (and some that I didn't get to own). I hope that they do well and have rescued one that was being ill treated but my advice would be to remember the old adage:
Better to cry about the horse that you sold rather than the one that you didn't sell.
Regards,
Pete
Cut the umbilical cord! You're a car without breaks (an impending accident) if you're so emotionally involved with a horse that you don't want her claimed.
Rokeby is right, lose her and claim another.
If you can't make the decision to race a horse where they can win then you're not doing any service for yourself. Understand the ramifiations of where you race your horse and know that she may be claimed.
If the mare has worth as a broodmare then set a minimum level at which you'll race her and retire her to the shed when she's not able to compete any longer.
I have to disagree with Dray, I don't claim back. If I lost her it's at a level equal or greater than her value. I retire and breed or sell mares that have value. Buying back and breeding a mare because you have emotional feelings for the horse is a poor recipe for success. Chances are she was bleeding you before and chances are that she'll continue doing so if you keep and breed a mare based on emotional attachments.
I follow with interest all the careers on the track and in the shed of every horse that I've owned (and some that I didn't get to own). I hope that they do well and have rescued one that was being ill treated but my advice would be to remember the old adage:
Better to cry about the horse that you sold rather than the one that you didn't sell.
Regards,
Pete
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This stallion is DNA ... all foal can be MBNA inrolled.
Horses like their credit cards. - Four Forty Farms
Hi Numberjuan,
Your post made me smile. Competitive types get claimed and it's the ones that aren't performing that never seem to get taken.
Understanding where, when and why you'll lose a horse is a pre-requisite to claiming. The ones that don't work out are the problem.
Hope someone drops a slip on you.
Regards,
Pete
Your post made me smile. Competitive types get claimed and it's the ones that aren't performing that never seem to get taken.
Understanding where, when and why you'll lose a horse is a pre-requisite to claiming. The ones that don't work out are the problem.
Hope someone drops a slip on you.
Regards,
Pete
Has a palomino jean that pop up some.
This stallion is DNA ... all foal can be MBNA inrolled.
Horses like their credit cards. - Four Forty Farms
This stallion is DNA ... all foal can be MBNA inrolled.
Horses like their credit cards. - Four Forty Farms
Toadie, I know it may be hard to believe but you are a participant in the fairest game in town. A game where the animal seeks its own level of competition, either becasue of natural talent or lack of, or, possibily other issues. Sometimes the owner tries to seek the level but the horse always wins in the end. We are involved in the GREATEST GAME in the world. A game where racing provides different levels of competition for every individual according to their talents as a runner. Fast horses run with fast horses and slow horses run with slow horses and the one element that keeps it fair and equal (in theory) is the claim box. I hate you lost your horse, I know how it feels. I have won a race by 6 lenghts and then called by my trainer to say he had been claimed. You go from extreme highs one minute to extreme lows the next. That's part of this wonderful game. Believe me they are still entering good claiming horses and I promise if you start looking for another you will find one as good or better than the one you lost.
Keep the faith,
Larrygene
Keep the faith,
Larrygene
Toadie,
I know of what you speak. The first horse that was ever claimed off of me was a filly I broke on the farm. Now, I didn't own her, I had worked for her owner then went to work at the track. My boss looked at me and said in his booming baratone voice "You're not going to cry are you??" of course I answered no. Then went down the shed row and cried on the shoulders of another trainers assistant. They told me her trainer was a good guy only I found out his nickname later and it was deButcher.
Guess what? She was claimed by a big farm and turned into a broodmare a couple of races later (after they healed her from her chipped knee). So, maybe (praying) she was claimed to be a broodmare for someone. He might have thought her pedigree was good enough and if she went into a sale as a broodie prospect he couldn't afford her. Those things happen.
I wanted a filly out of the horses in training sale at Belmont several years ago and sent our trainer to go bid on her. Unfortunately she was out of the sale, Nick Zito bought her privately and ran her. (I wanted her as a broodmare.) Her name - Chelsey Flower. She was by His Majesty and I wanted her so bad I could taste it.
She ended up being a very good race filly and has produced a couple of stake horses. Now, how'd you like to see a couple of years down the road your filly's name as the broodmare of a nice stake horse? At least you will know you had a part of her at some time.
It's not easy trying to stay objectional, they're easy to fall in love with. But unless your partners want her back, take the money and see if you can't buy one a little nicer.
winds
I know of what you speak. The first horse that was ever claimed off of me was a filly I broke on the farm. Now, I didn't own her, I had worked for her owner then went to work at the track. My boss looked at me and said in his booming baratone voice "You're not going to cry are you??" of course I answered no. Then went down the shed row and cried on the shoulders of another trainers assistant. They told me her trainer was a good guy only I found out his nickname later and it was deButcher.
Guess what? She was claimed by a big farm and turned into a broodmare a couple of races later (after they healed her from her chipped knee). So, maybe (praying) she was claimed to be a broodmare for someone. He might have thought her pedigree was good enough and if she went into a sale as a broodie prospect he couldn't afford her. Those things happen.
I wanted a filly out of the horses in training sale at Belmont several years ago and sent our trainer to go bid on her. Unfortunately she was out of the sale, Nick Zito bought her privately and ran her. (I wanted her as a broodmare.) Her name - Chelsey Flower. She was by His Majesty and I wanted her so bad I could taste it.
She ended up being a very good race filly and has produced a couple of stake horses. Now, how'd you like to see a couple of years down the road your filly's name as the broodmare of a nice stake horse? At least you will know you had a part of her at some time.
It's not easy trying to stay objectional, they're easy to fall in love with. But unless your partners want her back, take the money and see if you can't buy one a little nicer.
winds