Florida Derby - G1: Past Performances

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Florida Derby - G1: Past Performances

Postby Whirlaway » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:04 pm

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Postby RuffianT21 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:21 pm

Should be a pretty awesome race... There are so many ways this could go; you've got the talented but lightly raced, the foreign mystery horse, the hard-knocking perpetual bridesmaid, and the speed with stamina concerns-- all the classic archetypes!

I'll take a blind stab at it and go with

Big Brown
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Postby louis finochio » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:34 pm

Thanks for posting. I will be on Big Brown.
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Postby Whirlaway » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:10 pm

Your welcome Lou.

Did not see Edgar Prado w/a mount in this one. Interesting training strategies between Fierce Wind and Smooth Air. I'll go with Smooth Air in this one. Can't remember the last time I picked a winner. I'd like to see Tomcito make the graded earning cut so they'll be compelled to go in the Derby. I'll be looking for him when he makes the turn for home!
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Postby ratherrapid » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:14 pm

i'd wish anybody but zito, but fear he'll take it. Big Brown? can a horse win the Florida Derby breezing (and racing) 27 furlongs for the year? And what's up with Tomcito last breezing 3/17. What's up with that?

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Postby RuffianT21 » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:21 am

ratherrapid wrote:Big Brown? can a horse win the Florida Derby breezing (and racing) 27 furlongs for the year?


I do kinda agree with you... I figure he's either gonna clean up Curlin-style or finish nowhere; I don't see him coming in second or third. Generally I hate going for horses like him, who are that lightly run, but from everything I've heard, he has some monster talent.

In any case, I'm not putting any money on this race because it could go so many ways.

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Postby jagger » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:23 am

Majestic Warrior, Elysium Fields or Fierce Wind. I like Big Brown for a longer distance.

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Postby ratherrapid » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:43 am

you're very wise jagger. 8)

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Postby zinn21 » Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:34 pm

Pretty interesting bunch of 3 yolds. Tomcito trains like a good horse. Perhaps he's the modern day Canonero II. Fierce Wind is sharp. Elysium Fields looks like a horse just getting good.

I'll bet Big Brown. He might be something special. Dutrow is awfully high on him and he knows a good horse when he sees one.

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Postby el camino » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:34 am

Tomcito - Great bet at 12/1. Big Brown is too lightly race to overcome the traffic troubles he will have from that post.

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Postby dance smartly » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:31 am

It's too bad Big Brown drew the 12th post... I mean, no horse has ever won from the 12 hole since the track was refurbished.
Nevertheless, I love this animal. I would love to see him do it.
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Postby dance smartly » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:32 am

It's too bad Big Brown drew the 12th post... I mean, no horse has ever won from the 12 hole since the track was refurbished.
Nevertheless, I love this animal. I would love to see him do it.
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Postby geowarrior » Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:52 am

Tomcito isn't such a longshot as one might think. He's by Street Cry. He's actually run at and beyond the Derby distance and has tons more racing experience than Big Brown even if Peruvian racing is poor quality. He's also been doing mile works. When's the last time we saw that? Also he's run on dirt, and frankly I think that's beginning to be a big deal as we have about half the horses on all the Derby Dozens who'll never see a speck of track without a bit of old tire in it until they actually get to Churchill Downs.

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Postby zinn21 » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:53 pm

Is BB the next Seattle Slew? He can really run..

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Postby pfrsue » Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:05 pm

zinn21 wrote:Is BB the next Seattle Slew? He can really run..


When he accelerated down the stretch, I hate to say it, but my mouth was literally hanging open. That was quite a performance.