What horse to you is the biggest flop?

[bdw0617]

I was thinking about this, the common choice will be the green monkey, 16 million dollar horse, but I think alot of people including myself never really expected all too much from him.

I'm going to go with Discreet Cat. I remember when I saw him as a 2YO and the way he won the UAE Derby with Dettori on his back he looked like Dubai Millinum Junior. He came back later that ye ar and won the Jerome and I think the Cigar Mile. he was a freak of nature.

I think 2007 might have been the best year of racing I have ever seen. A filly winning the belmont, one of the best horses of the decade and personally seeing what will be the all time money leader with my own two eyes, a GREAT group of 3YO's, etc... but the biggest event to me of the entire year was the 2007 Dubai World Cup Classic. I literarly could not sleep the previous night. I wanted to see Invasor and Discreet Cat face off. Everyone was talking about it, everyone had a different choice of who they thought was going to win and why, and the thing about it was, that Invasor fans could not discredit Discreet Cat fans and visa versa.

Going into it, I think Invasor had improved since the last time they meet, but for the first time in a long time, I had no real opinion of who I thought was going to win. it was just too close in my mind.

Well it wasnt' that close on the track. Discreet Cat had no chance, came in dead last, and struggled to become anything for the rest of career. What was once a brilliant sprinter/miler could not find the win circle any longer.

I remember seeing him go off like at 3 or 4 to 1 on breeders cup day, and thinking.... 1 year ago this race would have been a walk over.

[Hotwalker]

First Samurai comes to mind, but he did win the Champagne and Hopeful. When Bailey retired in January of the following year, you started thinking First Samurai wasn't classic potential. But if a horse wins a major race, never mind two, I don't know if you can consider them a flop at all.

Discreet Cat poured everthing into that Cigar Mile to beat Silver Train. You can't run much faster.

[ct2346]

I might actually suggest Top Knight. Went into the triple crown "season" as the favorite, by the time the Derby rolled around he lost favoritism status but was still well fancied. Came out of the triple crown as virtually nothing. A meteoric slide. Remember the year?

[HR LLC]

Every horse I bought out of the Fasig sales...

[bdw0617]

too funny

[Toccet02]

Arazi.

[Tucumcari]

Arazi

[Heidilady]

Fusaichi Pegasus in a way. I mean he gets everybody's hopes up with the Derby but then he fell apart for the rest of the year. They thought they'd bought their way into a TC winner I'm sure.

Arazi for sure.

[walaa]

you probably mean just for racing, but as far as complete flops though, hasnt Arazi turned into a sortof decent sire? dont start hating because i cant pay for all those sites that I can look at stats before I start posting but I thought as a flop racing, he had at least been an okay sire?? I love getting info on this forum, so dont start bashing my knowledge or lack thereof, just educate me

[louis finochio]

Citation TC winner 1948 a poor stallion. Chateaugay a disapointment in the breeding shed.

[Foggytrip]

That was funny HR.

[Toccet02]

you probably mean just for racing, but as far as complete flops though, hasnt Arazi turned into a sortof decent sire? dont start hating because i cant pay for all those sites that I can look at stats before I start posting but I thought as a flop racing, he had at least been an okay sire?? I love getting info on this forum, so dont start bashing my knowledge or lack thereof, just educate me

yes, just racing--he certainly has sired a gem in Congaree

[pokeyman]

Every horse I bought out of the Fasig sales...

Second that.

.....While the other horses on my short list went on to be stakes winners. *sigh*

[Jorge]

The aforementioned choice (named by Tucumcari & Toccet) was perhaps, not the biggest flop on his own merits, for the equine was not a bad horse after all, but, wow, writers and general public expected so so much from him after just one brilliant performance that it was really surrealistic and unfair for him. Imagine, he was labeled as the new Secretariat

[bdw0617]

yeah, from what i understand he (arezi) went on to win 2 grade two's in face as a 3YO.. while that's not off the map great.. that's a hell of alto better than what discreet cat did.