Claimed a horse recently - horse had ran 5 times through April 15th - all competitive races. Day we claimed her she bled a 1 out of 5 on the scope. Brought her to the midwest from west coast and she bled badly on lasix first breeze out.
Any ideas on supplements, time off, products (Ky Red, Amocor, Premarin, etc)
Need to get her on the right track again - ideas? Racing in OH, KY, IN - Hopefully
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Send to Vets to check if the poor thing has been abused before you calimed him..then sue the culprit..in this
world..full of such people..as said b4..a trainer in Malaysia filled a horse stomach with salt water before a race and kolled him.
Hope your horse was not a victim of such evil acts.
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world..full of such people..as said b4..a trainer in Malaysia filled a horse stomach with salt water before a race and kolled him.
Hope your horse was not a victim of such evil acts.
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Give her 5 days before the race, Calmer made by NAF half the dozen from the proposed one and she will NEVER EVER bleeds again.
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She won,t need stuff like lasix, which is only reducing the fluids and dries horses out
The sources from bleeding are all of them stress orientated and is spread within the tb breed.
Productname Tempralax
She won,t need stuff like lasix, which is only reducing the fluids and dries horses out
The sources from bleeding are all of them stress orientated and is spread within the tb breed.
You want to make sure that she is not getting any alfalfa, which can cause bleeding. We've used Premarin without any success; maybe it works for some people but I don't think highly of it.
Time off has to be a month minimum, for me. Those lungs need to heal up before the horse even gallops again.
The bad part is: they always seem to remember that feeling of drowning. Horses that I have had that bled through lasix never amounted to anything at all. Some horses just aren't meant to be athletes. I've noticed that all of the horses I've owned that have bled through lasix were also very nervous types. I had one filly that seemed fine in her first start, bled astonishingly in her second start, and then froze walking out onto the track for her third and fourth starts. We gave up quick.
I do have one gelding that I bought from Arizona that has bleeder stamps all over his papers. His last owner got six wins out of him by running him only two or three times a year, but winning almost all of them. He had to have long layoffs between starts and constant freshening. He is not at all a nervous horse, so maybe his mental state is a little better about it.
Time off has to be a month minimum, for me. Those lungs need to heal up before the horse even gallops again.
The bad part is: they always seem to remember that feeling of drowning. Horses that I have had that bled through lasix never amounted to anything at all. Some horses just aren't meant to be athletes. I've noticed that all of the horses I've owned that have bled through lasix were also very nervous types. I had one filly that seemed fine in her first start, bled astonishingly in her second start, and then froze walking out onto the track for her third and fourth starts. We gave up quick.
I do have one gelding that I bought from Arizona that has bleeder stamps all over his papers. His last owner got six wins out of him by running him only two or three times a year, but winning almost all of them. He had to have long layoffs between starts and constant freshening. He is not at all a nervous horse, so maybe his mental state is a little better about it.
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You could try increasing her race day lasix. My horses will usually get 5cc but if I know a horse is more susceptible to bleeding I will increase it to 7cc.
Always make sure you do some fluid / electrolyte replacement after the race. I always jug the day after, and I will orally treat the horse with lyte now while he is cooling out.
It pays to be careful about irritants in the mare's environment. If you have to, wet her hay and sprinkle her bedding to make sure she isn't inhaling too much dust, which aggravates a bleeder.
Vitamin C supplements in the diet can be helpful. Also, an oral treatment called Xantex can be administered before the race.
I don't know which adjunct meds you are allowed, but I prefer Ky Red. I've had good success with it. Some people swear by Amicar - I suppose it's a matter of opinion.
Good luck. Hope some of this has been helpful.
Always make sure you do some fluid / electrolyte replacement after the race. I always jug the day after, and I will orally treat the horse with lyte now while he is cooling out.
It pays to be careful about irritants in the mare's environment. If you have to, wet her hay and sprinkle her bedding to make sure she isn't inhaling too much dust, which aggravates a bleeder.
Vitamin C supplements in the diet can be helpful. Also, an oral treatment called Xantex can be administered before the race.
I don't know which adjunct meds you are allowed, but I prefer Ky Red. I've had good success with it. Some people swear by Amicar - I suppose it's a matter of opinion.
Good luck. Hope some of this has been helpful.