A filly wins the 152nd Queen's Plate

Mood Swings · Postby **Mood Swings** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:33 pm

http://youtu.be/2MrshlA3R3U

ElPrado · Postby **ElPrado** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:35 pm

And she's the 34th filly to do so.

winds · Postby **winds** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:58 am

She won impressively and went faster than the Derby.

winds

zinn21 · Postby **zinn21** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:36 am

She was very impressive.

wilf · Postby **wilf** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:48 pm

Very impressive turn of foot by this filly and may be the best since the legendary Dance Smartly who interestingly is in the pedigree of the dam sire Smart Strike. Also she is trained by Josie Carroll who became the first female trainer to win this historic race just a few years ago with Edenwold.

brigadier gerard · Postby **brigadier gerard** » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:34 pm

Congrats to Philanthropist for sireing the place and show horses from his first crop. Maybe this will lead to more and better mares in his future.

Patuxet · Postby **Patuxet** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:48 pm

Inglorious (Hennessy), which upset a full field of males to win the Queen's Plate, was not nominated to the Prince of Wales S. Instead she'll try to give Donver Stable a second victory in the GI Alabama S. The stable colors were carried to victory by Careless Jewel (Tapit) in 2009.

Terrapin Flyer · Postby **Terrapin Flyer** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:37 pm

Too bad her dirt form is suspect and a Maiden Special for fillies at Saratoga would have been a tougher race than this years Queens Plate. She was coming off a win against a filly who was claimed for $15k at Keeneland and won easier in the Plate, that shows what kind of field the Queens Plate has turned into theses days. While visualy inpressive I've got my doubts, until she does it in the Alabama.

Terrapin Flyer · Postby **Terrapin Flyer** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:34 pm

I guess I was right, she's an ok Canadian poly filly. That being said any of the boys who ran in the Queens Plate would have been dusted by these gals too. Dance Smartly would have laughed at this bunch.

FOS · Postby **FOS** » Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:56 am

hi Terrapin Flyer

Terrapin Flyer wrote:I guess I was right, she's an ok Canadian poly filly. That being said any of the boys who ran in the Queens Plate would have been dusted by these gals too. Dance Smartly would have laughed at this bunch.

Dance Smartly was a genuine real deal Big-time filly

...WOW

As for Inglorious, she showed NOTHING in the Alabama. Absolutely, positively NOTHING...finishing last of six, a distant 35 lengths behind the winner (Royal Delta) and more than 14 lengths behind the fifth place finisher (St John's River).

I'd like to think trainer Josie C will have something to say after going thru the filly, and digesting it all. Question is...was something amiss or gone awry...or is what we saw in the Alabama what Inglorius is? A filly that was totally outclassed, and clearly in waaaaaaay over her head.

Respectfully

kimberley mine · Postby **kimberley mine** » Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:45 am

FOS wrote:I'd like to think trainer Josie C will have something to say after going thru the filly, and digesting it all. Question is...was something amiss or gone awry...or is what we saw in the Alabama what Inglorius is? A filly that was totally outclassed, and clearly in waaaaaaay over her head.

Respectfully

Or...she just really, really, really hates dirt.

I remember when The Australian Syndicate thought they'd try Starcraft in the Breeders Cup Classic. This horse who had won Gr-1 races in 4 different countries and two hemispheres before shipping to the US looked totally outmatched at Belmont.

FOS · Postby **FOS** » Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:41 am

hi kimberley mine

kimberley mine wrote:
FOS wrote:I'd like to think trainer Josie C will have something to say after going thru the filly, and digesting it all. Question is...was something amiss or gone awry...or is what we saw in the Alabama what Inglorius is? A filly that was totally outclassed, and clearly in waaaaaaay over her head.

Respectfully

Or...she just really, really, really hates dirt. ...

35 lengths :roll:

is an awful lot of hate though, don't ya think :lol:

?

kimberley mine wrote:I remember when The Australian Syndicate thought they'd try Starcraft in the Breeders Cup Classic. This horse who had won Gr-1 races in 4 different countries and two hemispheres before shipping to the US looked totally outmatched at Belmont.

Seems Starcraft's racing manager Paul Makin let his sensibilities (Starcraft had won 7 of 9 lifetime starts, all at a mile on the turf) take a back seat to a dream (winning the BC Classic, racing on the dirt for the first time, and all at a mile and a quarter no less). Can't fault him for dreaming, after all Starcraft had already earned well in excess of $2mil going into the BC, and manager Makin felt he had a horse that might handle the surface and the distance.

The results speak for themselves...Starcraft finished 7th of 13 (approx 7 1/2 behind the winner St Liam). The official DRF comment was Starcraft (NZ) failed to mount a serious rally while racing wide.

Racing manager Makin's own words, spoken at a pre-BC Classic luncheon (per Bloodhorse article 10/25/2005), tell a story.

"I really didn't want to go in the Turf," "I would like to race against Leroidesanimaux, but I don't achieve anything if I beat him. It would be a much bigger achievement to race on dirt for the first time and make history."

Makin went on to say in the Bloodhorse article, "I've had a terrific battle with common sense, and finally, stupidity won," Makin said with a laugh. "He does love soft ground, and I think he'd be suited for the Mile. ... I think if you've really got a good horse, you should try to excel. I'd like to give him a last challenge to transit from turf to dirt, because he has never been on it."

Bottom line...Makin opted to run Starcraft in the BC Classic, not the BC Mile (turf). He finished 7th of 13, finishing approx 7 1/2 behind the winner, but ahead of Sir Shackleton, Sun King, Borrego and others.

In the case of Inglorious, she finished dead last of 7...35 lengths behind the winner (Royal Delta), and more than 14 lengths behind fifth placer St John's River. Now that's a terrible performance.

Respectfully

wangkw · Postby **wangkw** » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:52 am

Ran the fatest time among the 6 filly winners since 1960.
2:02.63 time betters Dance Smartly's by 4/5 second.

Iron lady, a restricted race notwithstanding.

kimberley mine · Postby **kimberley mine** » Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:55 am

FOS wrote:35 lengths is an awful lot of hate though, don't ya think ?

You give me an awful lot of hate, I raise you a David Junior. Another good horse who went for the big prize in his first race on dirt, and was eventually eased at the mile pole when it was clear he was not having any of it.

In the case of Inglorious, she finished dead last of 7...35 lengths behind the winner (Royal Delta), and more than 14 lengths behind fifth placer St John's River. Now that's a terrible performance.

Yes it was, especially given that she'd improved so dramatically once she left dirt and went to a different surface. If she had gone to Keeneland, Del Mar, or Hollywood and been schooled in similar fashion, I would agree with you. Going from million dollar (and whatever that is with the exchange rate now) success on the polyfluff to a dirt track known to be quirky, with no pre-race training over said track, and no evidence of injury or Issues, doesn't automatically say she's a cat, so much as it says race this filly on fluff or possibly turf.

Tappiano · Postby **Tappiano** » Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:52 pm

She never had a single workout over the track! Isn't this one of those tracks that you really, really need to have a workout AND possibly a prep race.

Were the connections so damn sure of themselves that this filly was just THAT good?