Chantel Sutherland

[tbrace]

Chantell doesn't seem to be getting the rides she did last year. Some trainers have dropped her, others put her on long shots.

Why the change?

[bdw0617]

she never was a hot jockey down in socal. she mainly rides for Abrams and whatever else long shots she can get on. not first call to a lot of trainers.

[Georgerz]

Has the call on the Baffert horse in the World Cup in Dubai. Can't be that cold.

[bdw0617]

even that mount sh got by pure luck

the first time she rode game on dude was in the 2011 SA de handicap. baffert had 4 horses in that race. GOD, First dude, i want to say spurrier and another horse. he had to have 4 jockeys and martin was on first dude and so on and she got the call on game on dude who at the time was the one with the highest of the 4 odds in the race.

[westover]

In California, as she made a formal complaint to officials after a jockey made some comment to her (apparently Sexually oriented lol go figure) ALL jockeys were forced to take a Sexual Harrassment orientation seminar.. so didn't help things I'm sure.

She is friends with Bob Bafferts wife aka ride on his horse(s)

In Ontario well thats a whole other story...

[Shammy Davis]

Westover wrote:

. . . after a jockey made some comment to her (apparently Sexually oriented lol go figure) ALL jockeys were forced to take a Sexual Harrassment orientation seminar..

Wow! Can you actually complain to the CA stewards if you have had a bad date with Mike Smith?

I thought VA was tough when they wouldn't let Pat Day ride in the VA Derby some years back because he had a "pot" conviction as a young adult.

After viewing Chantal's and Mike's date on the Jockey TV series, no wonder she'd complain if another jockey actually "hit" on her. She was probably shocked when someone said to her "you really look nice today." As I remember, on that date all Mike talked about was how to sit on a horse. I don't guess she's a country music fan or she would have heard the song "I like to check you for ticks." Maybe the jockey said something like that to her. I'm sure CA barns have some ticks. Here in Central VA, ticks are good reason for romance.

My one fear with someone like Chantal would be that she'd want to do her nails while I was checking.

[westover]

I think she is pursuing her acting career more than riding these days.. I think thats why she left us Ontarions, for California permanently ....

[Shammy Davis]

Chantal's acting career maybe dead in the water, since "Luck" has been cancelled. Her appearances on Jockey were sub-par. Maybe she could get a spot on one of those reality dating shows. The slide of the American $ might make Ontario more inviting to Chantal. Woodbine is listed as one of the safest race tracks in NA. Riding at SA could be injurious to her health and her pocket book. I've always been impressed with the Woodbine operation.

If acting isn't in the cards for her, maybe she can start a new line of nail polish for equestrians. She could market colors like cushion, tapeta, dirt, turf, saddle, girth, bridle, bit, carrot, peppermint, oat, barley, sweet feed, pellet, pre-molar et al. Then, of course, she could also market a line of "Mike Smith" sanitary wipes and "Gary Stevens" hair products. Something unisex or for men would be different from a ladies product line.

She could also sue Santa Anita and the jockeys for sexual harrassment. That could be big bucks for her.

[bdw0617]

In California, as she made a formal complaint to officials after a jockey made some comment to her (apparently Sexually oriented lol go figure) ALL jockeys were forced to take a Sexual Harrassment orientation seminar.. so didn't help things I'm sure.

She is friends with Bob Bafferts wife aka ride on his horse(s)

In Ontario well thats a whole other story...

I think this is why I do not care for the woman.

She tries to have her cake and eat it too and it's actually quite misogynistic

you can't freaking complain about sexually assault when you are activally sleeping with one of the jockies, and not just sleeping with it, parading it on freaking TV that you are sleeping with one of the jockies. babe you crossed that damn bridge yourself.

how are we supposed to take her deliriously when she doesn't even take herself seriously.


i'm not saying it's okay to assult woman, but when you date a jockey at work, don't be surprised when other men try to hit on you.

but then when she wants someone to feel bad for her she drums up crap like this. that actually pisses me off. I've been in similar situations and it's not fun

she's not a bad jockey at all. she's not roasiro or gomez but she can get the job done if she has the horse more times than not.

[Shammy Davis]

bdw0617 wrote:

I think this is why I do not care for the woman.

Well, it appears that all the women in the world are safe. So ladies strike another "single, loves horse racing, computers, chat boards, and doesn't care for women" off your also eligible list.

If you do decide to change your mind, you might want to come back and "edit" the above line out of this post. It will show up on a google. I'm told that after 50, romance for the single guy is a bit of a challenge, though medications are now available so it sometimes nice to have a plan that doesn't piss the ladies off.

I don't think anyone actually assualted Chantal. That's a crime. Sexual harassment is more subtle. Like "I'd like to check you ticks" or "Why ride horses when you can ride me" talk. She hasn't dated Mike Smith in a couple of years and I think they had separate bedrooms anyway. They definitely acted like they had separate bedrooms.

[bdw0617]

bdw0617 wrote:

I think this is why I do not care for the woman.

Well, it appears that all the women in the world are safe. So ladies strike another "single, loves horse racing, computers, chat boards, and doesn't care for women" off your also eligible list.

If you do decide to change your mind, you might want to come back and "edit" the above line out of this post. It will show up on a google. I'm told that after 50, romance for the single guy is a bit of a challenge, though medications are now available so it sometimes nice to have a plan that doesn't piss the ladies off.

I don't think anyone actually assualted Chantal. That's a crime. Sexual harassment is more subtle. Like "I'd like to check you ticks" or "Why ride horses when you can ride me" talk. She hasn't dated Mike Smith in a couple of years and I think they had separate bedrooms anyway. They definitely acted like they had separate bedrooms.

dude you can take the misogynistic undertone elsewhere.

all i am saying is that when a woman decides to date an employee, she really ca n't act surprised when other employees hit on her.

i am not a woman hater but i hold women accountable for their actions unlike some. just becuase a woman is pretty doesn't give her the right to be a spoiled brat.

[Shammy Davis]

bdw0617: You were the one who referred to misogyny, not me. There is no way to be polite about this, but IMO you should "think" before you post.

Here is a statement that you made that is quite confusing.

She tries to have her cake and eat it too and it's actually quite misogynistic

and another

how are we supposed to take her deliriously when she doesn't even take herself seriously.

Please forgive me but I went to "drill instructor charm school" and there is no way to put this politely, but after reading your posts let me spell it out for you: D...I...C...T...I...O...N...A...R...Y.

[westover]

Shammy I laughed my way through your posts, and feel you need your own column, but to be fair to bdw he/she said "this is why I don't care for the womAn" I think you may have thought he/she said "womEn" lol

When I'm tired I make a lot of mistakes so I have to reread my posts a 100x before posting them.

Bdw I do get completely what u r saying, Ms. Sutherland should be use to this industry by now and if ur going to put it out there you have to be prepared for what will ensue, nature of the beast!

[Shammy Davis]

Westover you are right. Bdw0617 did spell "woman" correctly. It was the reference to misogyny that threw me and I wasn't sure whether he meant woman or women. It is possible to hate just one woman but that is not misogyny. I should have followed the "drill instructors charm school" rule, clarify or shut up.

Bdw0617, I apologize if I misinterpreted your post. Let me step back for a moment and moderate my thoughts on your posts.

With every post, please use a dictionary and proof read! A few typos and misspellings are expected, but "harmless cyber-floggings" will begin if you continue to flagrantly violate William Struck's 1918 classic english writing guide "Elements of Style", which by the way is still in print (still used in education today) and I recommend.

How's that? I know the departed soul of my charm mentor and drill instructor, Sergeant I. M. Fowl, would be proud of me at this moment. I'm sure he'd say, "Shammy, you are an @ss hole, but it is no longer as big as it was yesterday. Oooooh rah!"

[bdw0617]

Shammy I laughed my way through your posts, and feel you need your own column, but to be fair to bdw he/she said "this is why I don't care for the womAn" I think you may have thought he/she said "womEn" lol

When I'm tired I make a lot of mistakes so I have to reread my posts a 100x before posting them.

Bdw I do get completely what u r saying, Ms. Sutherland should be use to this industry by now and if ur going to put it out there you have to be prepared for what will ensue, nature of the beast!

that's all i'm trying to say. you can't have it both ways.

Like look at Anna N. She's a cute gal, but she does not put herself out there like that. she keeps her private life private and you know what, everyone respects her private life for what it is. I understand she recently got married in her time off, didn't make a huge issue out of it.

Chantal on the other hand has match races with her ex boyfriend jockey and stuff like that and has tv episodes of her and her boyfriend jockeys issues, you know with that you need to be ready for any collateral attention that might come your way.

you can't cherry pick when you want to play the gender issue. the irony of it all being that at the end of the day she is hurting herself becuase she really is a better jockey than most people give her credit for. she is not a bad jockey at all (at least anymore). but no one wants to talk about her jockey abilities and she has no one but herself to blame for that IMHO