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2012 Breeder's Cup Entries

Postby TJ » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:29 pm

Here's the entries, morning line and post positions for the two day, 2012 Breeders Cup races.
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Postby dublino » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:14 am

Possibly the worst Breeders Cup Classic ever?

If to Honour and Serve doesn't beat this sorry bunch it will harm his stallion career, kill it before it gets started.
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Postby Cree » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:31 am

Without looking into my crystal ball and not knowing what the future holds for these fellas, I think the Juvenile leaves something to be desired. The Juvenile Fillies is far more interesting.

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Postby bdw0617 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:38 pm

i don't know if this isjust beucse i watch too much racing and i have gone crazy or what not.. i gotta tell you.. Optimizer has a shot here at a box car price. If you threw out all of his dirt races he'd be half the price.
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Postby karenkarenn » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:51 pm

I can't wait to see Spring in the Air doing her Zenyatta dance in the paddock. I want to take photos.!

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Postby Cree » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:50 pm

karenkaren,

here she is, it gets better after her gallop, heading home...
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Postby karenkarenn » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:47 pm

:P :D

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Postby karenkarenn » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:04 pm

I am also interested in seeing Almudena from Peru.. She has been here in the states for awhile.
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Postby bdw0617 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:02 am

4 years ago, i learned the most important lesson fo my handicapping career on this day... it was the first of the 2nd in a row years of the BC being at santa ainta. they just got the new pro ride surface.

i got absoutly pillaged. and honestly, it wasn't even beucase of bad handicapping to this day i think a lot of my picks made vvery good sense.

i got killed, and i think a lot of people got killed on those 2 days, beucase i took the track for granted. the turf course was rock hard and the pro ride, no one had run over it yet that wasn't based in california.

this year it's the same deal. this smells a lot like 2008. the track is rock freaking hard. the turf track is like pavement. all these horses from the mid west and east coast haven't seen anything like this hard ass track here in socal, nor are very many of them accussomted tot he difference in racing styles that has to be accounted for (socalr aces are much more speed oriented)

in liue of that, in combination with the fact that hollywood park meet coming up i am going to do great at, and i play aussie racing and the melborne stakes festival is going n, i'm not really gonna dive in, just live to fight another day. this is how i make a living and there will be other battles.

but i do like some .

in the first today i really like Quail Hill. I play socal everyday this is my bread and butter track so I follow these horses all the time.


in the 7th, i don't see anyway executive privilege is going to lose this race. IMHO she's the best 2 YO in the country regardless of gender. that 2 to 1 is stealing money.

I don't like the euros on this turf course at all. so while it makes sense to like some like up i kinda like in the turf, gonna have to pass.


in the ladies classic, i really like awesome feather. i like her because she is the most verisitle filly as far as the type of dirt she likes. she has won at gulfstream, she's won at clader, 2 polar opposite tracks, she's won at belmont and Churchill. she should take to this track.

Honestly i just don't think royal delta is as good as her racing line makes her look.



okay.. tomorrow.. in the filly and mare sprint. i'm going to take a shot here. groupie doll is the odds on choice and she should win. but, she has never ran on this turf course, while she's won at Churchill she has a very turfy pedigree and i question if she is going to take to this track like Churchill.. that's not a given, not a lot of horses take to both.

i am going to say love it and i'm going with rumor. at one point last year she was she was considered to be the best 3YO filly in the country. she's a half sister to multiple grade 1 winner dixie chatter. she loves this track. she runs her best here.

this is one of those plays where i don't think she will win, but she's better than 20 to 1 and i could easily see a scenario where she pulls it off.


Dirt mile i am a huge rail trip fan, so that's where i am going. this is his best distance as well. if he has the lead in the middle of the back stretch this race is over


tuff sprint it's hard for me to go against California flag but starspangedbanner is just too good to pass up at 10 to 1. shit he's the best horse in this race by a considerable margin. if he doesn't get in trouble he won't lose he just has a gear that no other horse in this race has.


I think you will see an upset in the juvenile but i dont' know who. I don't like any of the top 3 . gun to my head i would go with fortify. but i am going to pass this race



sprint going with amazombie

mile going with wise dan

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Postby Taff » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:12 pm

There is a horse running with 'La Troienne' in the breeding any help finding it would be appreciated
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Postby bdw0617 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:13 pm

lol D wayne has already pre entred high tail in all three triple crown races
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Postby erins isle » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:22 pm

I am amazed, Hightail won the Juvenile Sprint bred by "our" member Greenhills???

If so many congrats!!!!!
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Postby bdw0617 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:59 pm

yeah this is about to get ugly lol.

i learned my lesson 4 years ago. this breeders cup screams 2008 all over again. too many unknown veribles
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Postby Taff » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:10 pm

Taff wrote:There is a horse running with 'La Troienne' in the breeding any help finding it would be appreciated
Thanks in Advance.
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Postby TJ » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:25 pm

The BC Juvenile Filly turf is an interesting race. I heard about Watsdachances being a highly regarded 2YO fily imported to Chad Brown from Ireland. The filly has been unbeaten in America and finishes like a freight train. They immediately added lasix, so it's possible they knew she had ability but also needed to come to America for lasix? In any case, I believe this is a good bet today at 6-1. There's no telling how good Spring Venture is as she's won under wraps in all her starts. I'll make believe there are no Euro runner's in the race because I never can handicap their ability when they come here...so I'll go with Watsdachances, Spring Venture on top over Kittens Point, Tara From the Cape, Flashy Ways and Moonwalk under for a big exacta:>) This should effectively help all the Euro horses in this race:>) TJ