American bloodlines that can get 12 furlongs?

[Slew83]

Which American bloodlines can win at 12 furlongs?

[Jeff]

A.P. Indy

[Jorge]

Don’t miss to check the pedigree of
Maya Charli (2007) and her recent stakes victory over 2 miles
At the Georgia Cup Hurdle Stakes.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/maya+charli
Certainly, this mare is another living tribute to the greatness of
our American Tesio: John Nerud. What a well assembled pedigree!
Just take a look.

This case seems to me like a tangible answer to this thread.

[mini's mom]

you can't beat Prince John for stamina - what a lovely jumping horse she is!!

[Barcaldine]

Roman Ruler (sprinter)

Distorted Humor (sprinter)

Northern Afleet (sprinter/miler)

Gone West (sprinter/miler)

Gulch (sprinter/miler)

Woodman (sprinter)

Danzig (sprinter)

Creme dela Creme (sprinter/miler)

Mr. Prospector (sprinter)

Exclusive Native (sprinter)

Bold Reasoning (sprinter)

Irish Castle (sprinter)

[Patuxet]

More to the point IMO is: What American trainers are genuinely capable of training a horse to win a truly contested 12 furlong race? In the US racing environment precious few are ever called upon to attempt it.

[Mac]

Broad Brush is proving to be a dream classic distance broodmare sire. His most prominent male representative Include is pretty decent with getting grade 1 winners and they can route.

[wilf]

I claimed a horse for $3,500 in 1994 who won going 12 furlongs in 2.29.2 about 5 months later after a good break and the required long fast gallops. It's not rocket science, they either have it in them or they don't. Just pray that they stay sound and survive colic.........sadly mine did not. I feel that although he was by Woodman his stamina came from his damsire Verbatim by Speak John, great old Kentucky blood. Others that I love are Kris S and Rahy.

[Joltman]

I nominate Dynaformer

Throughout his career, Dynaformer consistently improved on his mates' produce records. Further, he was a welcome source of bone, soundness, and stamina. His average winning distance for his runners of 8.86 furlongs was the longest for any commercially viable stallion in the North American market, and his runners 3 years old and older have averaged 18 starts each, a figure that will probably rise as his youngest runners finish out their careers.

from the Bloodhorse....

jm

[Joltman]

More to the point IMO is: What American trainers are genuinely capable of training a horse to win a truly contested 12 furlong race? In the US racing environment precious few are ever called upon to attempt it.

Michael Matz and the Euro-types.

jm

[bdw0617]

if i honestly wanted a horse to run a 12F race i probably wouldn't hire an american trainer.

the only one i'd consider is clemente. he's proven he can get horses to run further than what they are bred to want to run

[ct2346]

Roman Ruler (sprinter)

Distorted Humor (sprinter)

Northern Afleet (sprinter/miler)

Gone West (sprinter/miler)

Gulch (sprinter/miler)

Woodman (sprinter)

Danzig (sprinter)

Creme dela Creme (sprinter/miler)

Mr. Prospector (sprinter)

Exclusive Native (sprinter)

Bold Reasoning (sprinter)

Irish Castle (sprinter)

Bold Reasoning was more than a sprinter. Danzig and Exclusive Native were tbd if we're really classifying them.

[Barcaldine]

OK, Bold Reasoning was a sprinter/miler. If you recall, he was a fast horse who set a NTR for six furlongs, 1:08 4/5, and, like Bold Ruler, was able to carry his speed a little bit farther if the pace was slow enough.

Exclusive Native was a similar type; more precocious, very fast and lucky to win the one-turn Arlington Classic at a mile.

Danzig never proved himself beyond sprint distances, and as a front-running type who was built like a sprinter, it is questionable whether he could have run past a mile. I liken his racing ability to his son DAYJUR, who closely resembled him in type.

The obvious point is that sprinters and sprinter milers are just as capable as stayers--if not more so--of siring classic horses. It's all in how they are mated, and how their foals are managed.

[FOS]

hi Barcaldine

OK, Bold Reasoning was a sprinter/miler. If you recall, he was a fast horse who set a NTR for six furlongs, 1:08 4/5, and, like Bold Ruler, was able to carry his speed a little bit farther if the pace was slow enough.

Exclusive Native was a similar type; more precocious, very fast and lucky to win the one-turn Arlington Classic at a mile.

Danzig never proved himself beyond sprint distances, and as a front-running type who was built like a sprinter, it is questionable whether he could have run past a mile. I liken his racing ability to his son DAYJUR, who closely resembled him in type.

The obvious point is that sprinters and sprinter milers are just as capable as stayers--if not more so--of siring classic horses. It's all in how they are mated, and how their foals are managed.

It's that simple huh ?

Respectfully

[Barcaldine]

Almost as simple as an A++ nick, or a Dosage Index of 1.00.