Interesting...

[ides of ice]

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?secti ... id=9284811

[bdw0617]

this is what gets me about this. not the fact that people would try to do this. what gets me is that people are so degenerate that they would actually wager on this.

In 15 mins i can pull up an ADW account, go online, or run to the nearest OTB / track and wager anywhere in the world damn near and you have to resort to this? about horses with no PP's or antyhing. how low do you have to be

[ides of ice]

a fool and his $ are soon parted.

[Shergar]

Unfortunately unlicensed/illegal racing occurs more often than one would care to think.

I have heard that illegal QH match races are especially popular in Southern California.

Shergar

[ides of ice]

NYT should investigate...60 Minuets also!

[wilf]

You guys are too much! It looks like fun to me. The only negative was that law enforcement were providing security for the races. One of the best days I ever enjoyed at the races was at a "picnic meeting" in country Australia which was not illegal as such but was not a pari-mutual raceday either. It was restricted to grass fed horses who were ranch horses and there were 4 races to qualify for a final race and the winner got a cup to commemorate the day. It was a lot of fun and you could legally bet on the competitions. You could also bet on races interstate at this venue with race descriptions being called over a landline and this was 30 years ago! It looks like a good idea ruined by State greed for more taxes and payoffs to the men in suits.

[Shergar]

You guys are too much! It looks like fun to me. The only negative was that law enforcement were providing security for the races. One of the best days I ever enjoyed at the races was at a "picnic meeting" in country Australia which was not illegal as such but was not a pari-mutual raceday either. It was restricted to grass fed horses who were ranch horses and there were 4 races to qualify for a final race and the winner got a cup to commemorate the day. It was a lot of fun and you could legally bet on the competitions. You could also bet on races interstate at this venue with race descriptions being called over a landline and this was 30 years ago! It looks like a good idea ruined by State greed for more taxes and payoffs to the men in suits.

Wilf: What you described above sounds like a lot of fun and I have absolutely no problems with the event you just described.

Being from Idaho, you probably know what our general feelings are about the, "Gubamint" getting involved in every aspect of ones life.

I'm attaching a link from a TB blog were the blogger attended something such as you described.
http://mcchump.com/html/exile8.htm#qpole

The part about Quarter Pole downs is approx. 3/4 of the way down the page.

Again, something that sounds like fun and I wouldn't mind being a part of.

I'm certain that all around the world where there are horses, there is going to be unsanctioned racing going on. You will always get folks with fast horses that want to prove that they have a fast one. Of course money will be changing hands and that is no big deal to me.

I think the main heartburn I have with, "Backstreet racing" or what one wants to call it is how the horses may be treated at these venues.

There was a horse I had a connection to that was claimed from us and after a few races dropped off the radar screen. About a year after dropping out of sight he was purchased by a rescue group out of a kill pen. His knees were blown up and former owners had chopped off most of his tail.

Not sure how they found out, but the rescue group claimed he had been used for Illegal street racing.

Unfortunately they had to put him down after having him for about a month.

Having just found this out a few weeks ago, I reckon my view was a bit skewed towards this type of activity.

Shergar

[madelyn]

um. So when I was a kid and bet someone $5 my mare could jump higher then theirs - not at a "sanctioned" show ground, just out in our little hunt field, that was illegal?

Sometimes the lines are a bit gray.. wilf's picnic meet sounds like fun and not unlike the QH racing I rode in during the late 60's. Little dirt track on a qh farm, tape across the ground as the starting line and the finish line, and people pulling up to the fence in pickup trucks to watch, tail gate and, I guess, make friendly wagers with each other. No racing "authorities" were involved.. it was just "every second Friday" in the summer and was all for fun. No purses..

[FOS]

hi bdw0617...hi madelyn

this is what gets me about this. not the fact that people would try to do this. what gets me is that people are so degenerate that they would actually wager on this.

Is it reasonable to suggest...that when it comes to this kinda unconventional (if you will) horse racing/wagering stuff your life's experiences may be quite limited? .

In 15 mins i can pull up an ADW account, go online, or run to the nearest OTB / track and wager anywhere in the world damn near and you have to resort to this? ...

Seems to me no doctoral thesis is necessary in this case . The dynamic is basically...my horse is faster than your horse...and not a whole lot more or less than that.

... about horses with no PP's or antyhing. how low do you have to be

Yeah, I guess without an ADW account, or going online, or running to the nearest OTB/track and being able to wager anywhere in the world, it wouldn't be any fun; and would be among the lowest of the low...NOT .

um. So when I was a kid and bet someone $5 my mare could jump higher then theirs - not at a "sanctioned" show ground, just out in our little hunt field, that was illegal?

Thanks for sharing what sounds to me was not only great fun, but also a fond memory.

Sometimes the lines are a bit gray.. wilf's picnic meet sounds like fun and not unlike the QH racing I rode in during the late 60's. Little dirt track on a qh farm, tape across the ground as the starting line and the finish line, and people pulling up to the fence in pickup trucks to watch, tail gate and, I guess, make friendly wagers with each other. No racing "authorities" were involved.. it was just "every second Friday" in the summer and was all for fun. No purses..

Beautiful, fun examples...similar to blast from the past match races that were much looked forward to by some (but relatively few in the overall scheme of things) in my then neck of the woods

They were exciting to watch, got the blood flowing , and clearly piqued interest. In my then neck of the woods the matches were between/among quarter horses, nonetheless, what I saw was energizing, and fueled an interested in horseracing. They may have all been quarter horses, but those early, and very exciting, QH match/race experiences were fun/exciting/and very fondly remembered.

Best to ya.

Respectfully

[ides of ice]

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