"This is the Cowards Way Out"

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:07 pm

wow. Now i'm kinda glad he didn't win. what a douche. lose with some class.

I mean i get what he's saying and I even kinda agreew ith it. But you don't say it then. Show some class.

TJ · Postby TJ » Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:12 pm

bdw0617 wrote:wow. Now i'm kinda glad he didn't win. what a douche. lose with some class.

I mean i get what he's saying and I even kinda agreew ith it. But you don't say it then. Show some class.

Hi bdw,
Agreed...I just wrote the same thing in the handicapping thread...really not a gracious loser. He took away all the good they did to this point and will lose a bunch of fans. TJ

wilf · Postby **wilf** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:46 pm

And then Costas asks Mr Evans what he feels about winning in a " coward's" way. Thankfully Mr Evans declined to answer such useless commentary, and this is in the winner's ceremony. What the hell happened ?

Cree · Postby **Cree** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:47 pm

Just goes to show a classy horse can outrun unclassy connections.

Kari · Postby **Kari** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:56 pm

wilf wrote:And then Costas asks Mr Evans what he feels about winning in a " coward's" way. Thankfully Mr Evans declined to answer such useless commentary, and this is in the winner's ceremony. What the hell happened ?

Hence the reason I watch all hockey and football games televised by NBC on mute. I miss Jim McKay.

Patuxet · Postby **Patuxet** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:17 pm

As someone I watched the race with put it: "And they said the colt lacked breeding." Looks like the sport is dying and taking sportmanship along with it.

Nancy T · Postby **Nancy T** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:30 pm

Why not say it? you say you agree but don't say it? One two did not race in the other two classics and 3-4 skipped the preakness. I agree with his connections

Cree · Postby **Cree** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:42 pm

IF he was good enough he would have won.

Another way of looking at this...why have so many horses won the Derby and Preakness over the last 20 years and not won the Belmont? Did they peak at the right time to win two back-to-back races, only to tire 3 weeks out in a gruelling 12 furlong race?

The time of this race was pretty slow. Who had mentioned on here about the times getting slower and slower?

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:52 pm

now that i think about it, i don't agree with him at all. It's always been like this the only difference is that in the past the horses who were gunning for Tc's weren't banking on the fields being bad to win. Easy Goer won the Belmont going 2:26 and change after running in the derby and the preakness. do you really think it would have mattered what "new shooters" were in the race that year? They would have all ran into the same buzz saw

the real problem is that we aren't breeding or training easy goers, affirmeds, shams, alydars, etc.

But even if I did, there's a way to win and there's a way to lose. that's not how you lose. The owner realize after the race no one now gives a damn about him waving his stetson hat anymore and starting the wave in crowds and wants the attention.

if I ever am in a position like that I would lose with dignity.

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:54 pm

Cree wrote:IF he was good enough he would have won.

Another way of looking at this...why have so many horses won the Derby and Preakness over the last 20 years and not won the Belmont? Did they peak at the right time to win two back-to-back races, only to tire 3 weeks out in a gruelling 12 furlong race?

The time of this race was pretty slow. Who had mentioned on here about the times getting slower and slower?

final time actually wasn't all that slow. it was faster than curlin/ rags to riches belmont 2:28 and 3.

actually, CC's belmont would have won the last 4 Belmont on raw times, rather easily. last year palace malice won opening up in 2:30 and change.

but i don't agree with him.

geowarrior · Postby **geowarrior** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:07 pm

It's always been this way in the Triple Crown. I don't remember anyone calling Mary Lou Whitney a coward when Birdstone defeated Smarty.

The three horses with the best distance pedigrees came first, second and third. CC and Wicked Strong were the best of the rest.

Joltman · Postby **Joltman** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:36 pm

I think that he speaks from the heart and that's why people like him. In this case he will regret it, the rest of his life. He has a point - but the TC is what it is. Celebrate 2 Classics and a great effort in the Belmont - despite the quarter.

If he stays sound he will be heard from again.

jm

Keith · Postby **Keith** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:57 pm

Caring about your horse and not running a horse into the ground is not a cowards way out. Comments like that and like The Big Brown Belmont with Dutrows comments about how woman can't train is bad for the sport.

jagger · Postby **jagger** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:07 pm

Cree wrote:IF he was good enough he would have won.

Another way of looking at this...why have so many horses won the Derby and Preakness over the last 20 years and not won the Belmont? Did they peak at the right time to win two back-to-back races, only to tire 3 weeks out in a gruelling 12 furlong race?

The time of this race was pretty slow. Who had mentioned on here about the times getting slower and slower?

Actually, the time wasn't that bad...better than the last 4 years....better than Seattle Slew but 1++ seconds slower than Norumbega ran in the Brooklyn Invitational just 7 races earlier. Had never heard of him.

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:14 pm

I've had some time to really sit down and think about this and this is how I feel about his comments:

The book Animal Farm is one of my fav books. IF you haven't had the forutine of reading it, it's basically a book about a group of farm animals who revolt against their farm owner, take the farm over and gradually over time, start to develop more and more humanistic traits. They start out not being able to read, towards the end they can read. They start out not being able to walk upright, and by the end of the book the pigs can walk upright. Towards the end of hte book the pigs even start living in the same house as the owner did, all things that they despised when they were farm animals themselves under the care of the farm owner.

The lure of California Chrome, for most people not me lol, was not so much the horse but the story.

The made for TV/movie story is about "normal" hard working people who purchased a horse for next to nothing and that horse nearly won the triple crown.

His rant ruined the feel good story. Everyone, rich or salt of the earth, now has the impression that the owners are poor sports, terrible losers, and ironically....entitled.

Horse racing entitlement versus homegrown luck was and has been the storyline leading up to this race. These people and their horse weren't supposed to be a threat to the establishment. It was a classic rich versus "poor" David versus Goliath storyline that the average person could connect to. Ambition versus entitlement.

With his rant, he effectively showed the world that he became what he openly criticized...entitled. He became the establishment.

That's the problem I have. That and he's wrong.

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