SHAMARDAL ON DERBY TRAIL ?

[louis finochio]

Is 2yr. old champion Shamardal b. c. 2002, by Giants Causeway---Helsinki, by Machiavellian still on the Derby trail, or has he gone to the sidelines?

Shamardal has 12 crosses of (Phalaris) in his 5 generation pedigree.

With this many crosses of (Phalaris) It will be interesting to see how many starts he has left in the tank.

[LSB]

After he performed so poorly on the dirt in the Derby prep in Dubai, he was taken off the Derby trail, while his connections reconsider his next move.

[MillyMix]

From what I was told today, hes injured along with Parole Board

[louis finochio]

Sad to hear Shamardal is injured. When the mating was made to produce Shamardal, the breeders were not researching the sire lines of his parents.

When will the breeders wake up and realize that fashion breeding does not hold up on the racetrack, as the sales pavillion will return many times their original investment, these same breeders will sacrifice soundness for a high profit margin on their return.

[WarHorse]

Wasn't he bred by the Maktoums? I thought they bred to race.

[Mike]

I'd be pretty happy with myself if I'd bred such a good animal.

[George William Smith]

Slightly sore shins after the race according to word I got today from UAE. Hardly a significant injury.

[BenB]

I,ve doubt it before, that sand or turf would suits him. The main reason
he,s tall and growing. Beyond that as a yearling he suffered back problems (might be o.c.d). So the owners should left him, with his old trainer who is having plenty of traininggrounds without benches etc.
Returning to europe should be the best for him (shamardal).
And racing on very large turf tracks

Ben

[WarHorse]

Shamardal had three cervical compressions, causing wobbler syndrome. He was slated to be euthanized, but was rehabbed with acupressure and energy work.

Didn't know about the sore shins, thanks.

[austique]

I did here that he shin-bucked in the UAE Derby. Darley bought the horse after his 2yo campaign. I was recently at Darley at Jonabell and as I was getting the tour I asked the guy giving the tour "How many foals will be retained by Darley?" and he said "Everything". They only breed to race. Got to see Sharp Cat and Windsharp too. I know you're jealous.

[louis finochio]

I hope Shamardal recovers and makes it to the breeding shed.

Shamardal needs mares that are non-(Phalaris) to add soundness to his offspring. I hope his connections see the light and will breed along those lines.

If Shamardal is long and tall thin frame as Ben stated, he will need stout mares to offset his lean and tall frame.

Time will tell what kind of a stallion Shamardal will become.

[Mahubah]

Any info on whether the tendency to beome a wobbler is inherited? If Shamardal indeed showed this as a yearling, I sure wouldn't want to send a good mare to him unless I knew the problem wasn't likely to be passed on.

[LSB]

Sad to hear Shamardal is injured. When the mating was made to produce Shamardal, the breeders were not researching the sire lines of his parents.

When will the breeders wake up and realize that fashion breeding does not hold up on the racetrack, as the sales pavillion will return many times their original investment, these same breeders will sacrifice soundness for a high profit margin on their return.

I hope Shamardal recovers and makes it to the breeding shed.

[louis finochio]

The 12 crosses of (Phalaris) sire lines that Shamardal has will magnify the problems of his ancestors. If the wobbler syndrome is in his ancestors background then Shamardal will pass it on to some of his offspring.

This is the problem with inbreeding or line-breeding to the same sire lines in TB when it is multiple or many duplications of the same lines.

[LSB]

Louis, I understand the concerns you've posted about Shamardal. That's why I was suprised that you hoped he would be standing at stud, especially since you thought his breeders made a mistake in producing him.