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Postby TBLADY » Wed Sep 29, 2004 1:56 pm

Sandbar Sally- 2001 bay model by Bugatti Reef X (Danzig) o/o blacktyped dam "SALISBURY SAL" (Stalwart) This fillys knees have given up the fight. I was told She has a sister or a half sister who is blacktyped and they pushed Sandbar Sally too fast too far too soon. $1000.00 or best REASONABLE offer (shes not for free so don't ask please)
Can be delived to Lexington at very nominal fee. Should have pictures and further details this weekend.

email [email protected] or call 330-921-1263 leave message we'll call you back.

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SALISBURY SAL, 1985, Stalwart- Sally Lunn by Cyane.
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SR SSI
1993 Salquest,f,Norquestor 4 37 6 6 6 112,735 ( 90) 1.72
North America 2 YO Record 2 0 0 0 360 ( 62)
North America Turf Record * 4 1 0 0 10,830 ( 80)
North America Dirt Sprints 19 3 3 4 56,912 ( 88)
North America Dirt Routes 14 2 3 2 44,993 ( 90)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 2 0 0 2 5,134 ( 88)
DP = 9-3-5-2-1 DI = 2.64 CD = 0.85 AWD = 7.47
At 5 3rd Maryland Million Distaff Str H. (R) (O) (47,500)
1995 Endless Legacy,c,Endless Surprise Unraced
DP = 8-6-3-0-1 DI = 6.20 CD = 1.11
1996 Sally Q,f,Norquestor 5 39 9 4 3 228,187 (101) 2.84
North America Turf Record 2 0 0 0 500 ( 78)
North America Dirt Sprints 26 6 2 3 147,337 ( 95)
North America Dirt Routes 11 3 2 0 80,350 (101)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 8 3 1 0 70,830 ( 87)
DP = 9-3-5-2-1 DI = 2.64 CD = 0.85 AWD = 6.61
At 4 2nd Spruce Fir Handicap (R) (O) (45,000)
1997 Dear Prancer,f,Deerhound Unraced
DP = 5-9-13-0-1 DI = 2.73 CD = 0.61
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
SARTWO 1999 501 $4,500 $33,167 2yo ( 3/ 3) $3,000
1998 Z Cute One,f,Polish Numbers Unraced
DP = 5-8-12-0-1 DI = 2.71 CD = 0.62
2000 Alsalsa,c,Allen's Prospect 2 18 2 2 2 56,695 ( 79) 1.18
North America 2 YO Record 3 0 0 1 2,540 ( 76)
North America Dirt Sprints 17 2 2 2 56,475 ( 79)
North America Dirt Routes 1 0 0 0 220 ( 52)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 3 1 0 0 26,455 ( 79)
DP = 11-7-9-0-1 DI = 4.09 CD = 0.96 AWD = 6.00
2001 Sandbar Sally,f,Bugatti Reef (Ire) 1 1 0 0 0 0 ( 40) 0.00
North America 2 YO Record 1 0 0 0 0 ( 40)
North America Dirt Sprints 1 0 0 0 0 ( 40)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 0 0 0 ( 40)
DP = 9-7-9-0-1 DI = 3.73 CD = 0.88
SIRE 0.41 Spi, 6str, 20%2yo, 0%1st, 14%Mud/7sts, 0%Tf/0 5.8
DAM(sp) 1.91 Dpi, 3 2yostr/0wnr, 33%Mud/15sts, 2 Tfstr/1wnr, 3 Rtestr/2wnr, AWD 6.8
2003 Fairly Bright,f,Numerous
DP = 12-5-12-2-1 DI = 2.56 CD = 0.78
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SALLY LUNN, 1976, Cyane- Virginia Cracker by Crackpot.
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SR SSI
1981 Baker's Son,c,Faraway Son 1 3 1 1 0 5,110 1.50
DP = 8-4-7-0-1 DI = 3.44 CD = 0.90
1982 Unnamed,c,Sensitive Prince
DP = 12-4-6-0-0 DI = 6.33 CD = 1.27
1983 Sable Sham,f,Sham 3 19 1 3 5 12,810 0.61
North America 2 YO Record * 7 1 0 1 4,685
North America Dirt Sprints 9 1 1 1 6,485
North America Dirt Routes 10 0 2 4 6,325
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 0 1 1,210
DP = 7-5-14-2-0 DI = 2.11 CD = 0.61 AWD = 4.00
1984 Dr. Tony Bernhardt,g,Quack 3 39 4 5 4 21,341 0.55
North America Turf Record 1 0 0 0 0
North America Dirt Sprints 13 2 2 3 8,724
North America Dirt Routes 25 2 3 1 12,617
North America Muddy/Sloppy 5 0 1 0 1,169
DP = 8-13-5-2-0 DI = 5.22 CD = 0.96 AWD = 7.20
1985 Salisbury Sal,f,Stalwart 5 64 8 6 17 154,628 (102) 2.43
North America 2 YO Record 6 2 1 2 22,890
North America Turf Record 4 0 0 2 4,740 ( 87)
North America Dirt Sprints 20 2 2 6 37,275 ( 80)
North America Dirt Routes 40 6 4 9 112,613 (102)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 8 2 0 4 21,115 ( 89)
DP = 9-8-10-0-3 DI = 2.75 CD = 0.67 AWD = 7.91
At 5 3rd Squan Song Handicap -L (75,000)
1988 Sportin' Jack,c,Sportin' Life 3 13 2 3 3 29,240 ( 95) 1.80
North America Turf Record 2 0 0 0 0 ( 72)
North America Dirt Sprints 7 1 2 2 14,390 ( 92)
North America Dirt Routes 4 1 1 1 14,850 ( 95)
DP = 8-4-9-9-0 DI = 1.22 CD = 0.37 AWD = 26.00
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEENOV 1988 896 $16,000 $17,250 wlg ( 3/ 4) NA
OBSAUG 1989 154 $36,000 $24,403 ylg ( 8/31) NA
1989 Sallyroo,f,Roo Art 2 18 2 2 5 5,682 ( 80) 0.23
North America 2 YO Record 10 1 2 2 3,546 ( 70)
North America Dirt Sprints 17 2 2 5 5,682 ( 80)
North America Dirt Routes 1 0 0 0 0
North America Muddy/Sloppy 2 0 1 1 824 ( 67)
DP = 4-4-10-0-2 DI = 1.86 CD = 0.40 AWD = 6.50
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEENOV 1989 2349 $900 $7,950 wlg ( 2/ 2) $6,000
FTKOCT 1990 59 $10,000 $8,800 ylg ( 2/ 5) $6,000
1991 Sweet Mary B.,f,Stalwart 1 6 1 0 2 17,040 ( 78) 1.69
North America 2 YO Record 6 1 0 2 17,040 ( 78)
North America Dirt Sprints 3 0 0 0 1,980 ( 77)
North America Dirt Routes 3 1 0 2 15,060 ( 78)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 3 1 0 1 14,360 ( 78)
DP = 9-8-10-0-3 DI = 2.75 CD = 0.67 AWD = 8.00
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
OBSAPR 1993 679 $14,000 $28,556 2yo ( 7/ 9) $15,000
1992 Spingold,c,Stalwart 2 11 3 2 0 98,075 ( 97) 5.22
North America Turf Record 2 0 0 0 0 ( 84)
North America Dirt Sprints 1 0 0 0 0 ( 76)
North America Dirt Routes 8 3 2 0 98,075 ( 97)
DP = 9-8-10-0-3 DI = 2.75 CD = 0.67 AWD = 8.50
At 3 2nd El Cajon S. (R) (O) (75,600)
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
CALAUG 1993 165 $10,500 $18,333 ylg ( 8/ 9) $15,000
OBSJAN 1993 524 $14,000 $18,333 ylg ( 7/ 9) $15,000
1993 Hurricane Jack,c,Saratoga Six 3 13 1 0 2 7,850 ( 70) 0.35
North America Turf Record 12 1 0 1 7,120 ( 70)
North America Dirt Routes 1 0 0 1 880 ( 67)
DP = 9-5-12-0-0 DI = 3.33 CD = 0.88 AWD = 20.00
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
OBSJAN 1994 716 $7,500 $28,517 ylg (29/30) $10,000
1995 GO MIKEY GO,g,Go And Go (Ire) 4 17 2 4 2 99,208 (102) 2.48
North America 2 YO Record 4 1 2 1 35,810 ( 94)
North America Turf Record 4 0 1 1 14,540 ( 90)
North America Dirt Sprints 3 0 0 0 150 ( 64)
North America Dirt Routes 10 2 3 1 84,518 (102)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 3 1 0 1 22,010 ( 94)
DP = 9-4-5-0-0 DI = 6.20 CD = 1.22 AWD = 9.00
At 3 Won Albany Handicap (R) (O) (66,180)
1996 Her Pinkness,f,Go And Go (Ire) 1 3 0 0 0 400 ( 62) 0.05
North America Dirt Sprints 1 0 0 0 0 ( 47)
North America Dirt Routes 2 0 0 0 400 ( 62)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 0 0 0 ( 47)
DP = 9-4-5-0-0 DI = 6.20 CD = 1.22
1997 Sudenlylastsummer,f,Rinka Das 2 14 3 0 2 60,882 ( 87) 1.67
North America 2 YO Record * 1 1 0 0 14,250 ( 73)
North America Turf Record 3 0 0 0 3,600 ( 85)
North America Dirt Sprints 3 1 0 1 17,630 ( 81)
North America Dirt Routes 8 2 0 1 39,652 ( 87)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 2 1 0 0 13,260 ( 83)
DP = 6-3-16-1-0 DI = 1.89 CD = 0.54 AWD = 7.67
1998 Proud Marine,c,Proud Truth 2 18 1 0 5 25,475 ( 88) 0.51
North America Turf Record 1 0 0 0 1,005 ( 73)
North America Dirt Sprints 3 0 0 0 0 ( 77)
North America Dirt Routes 14 1 0 5 24,470 ( 88)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 2 0 0 1 2,860 ( 83)
DP = 6-3-11-4-2 DI = 1.26 CD = 0.27 AWD = 8.00
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
FTMDEC 1998 402 $13,000 $13,000 wlg ( 1/ 1) NA
FTMOCT 1999 234 $13,500 $7,300 ylg ( 1/ 2) NA
2000 Rainbow's Glo,f,Storm Broker 2 12 1 2 1 12,120 ( 69) 0.36
North America 2 YO Record 1 0 0 0 850 ( 55)
North America Dirt Sprints 4 0 0 0 1,675 ( 57)
North America Dirt Routes 8 1 2 1 10,445 ( 69)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 0 1 1,130 ( 59)
DP = 6-5-7-0-0 DI = 4.14 CD = 0.94 AWD = 8.50
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
FTMDEC 2001 0632 $19,000 $9,453 ylg ( 3/15) $4,000
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VIRGINIA CRACKER, 1967, Crackpot- *Virginia Dare by Never Say Die.
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SR SSI
1975 Animal Cracker,f,Mongo 4 39 4 8 5 43,646 1.74
DP = 13-4-9-2-2 DI = 2.53 CD = 0.80
1976 Sally Lunn,f,Cyane 3 28 1 3 5 17,580 0.86
DP = 12-6-8-0-4 DI = 2.75 CD = 0.73
At 3 3rd Tosmah S. (35,000)
1977 Church Supper,f,Cyane 2 16 3 3 3 23,430 1.80
DP = 12-6-8-0-4 DI = 2.75 CD = 0.73
1979 Christmas Cracker,c,On The Warpath
IN UNITED KINGDOM 1 8 0 0 1 170
DP = 13-8-8-1-0 DI = 5.00 CD = 1.10
1980 BATNA,f,Cyane 3 34 6 6 3 188,095 5.61
DP = 12-6-8-0-4 DI = 2.75 CD = 0.73 AWD = 8.00
At 2 Won Tri-State Futurity (12,500), 2nd Marlboro Nursery S. (Fillies)
(40,000), 3rd Smart Angle S. (20,000)
At 3 Won Black-Eyed Susan S. -G2 (100,000), Flirtation S. (30,000), 3rd
Anne Arundel H. (L) (50,000)

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Postby Pete » Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:20 pm

Hi TBLady,

I'm posting for a few reasons. Do you have any race information on her for 2004? My APR shows her unplaced in 1 start.

There's been some discussion about breed to race type of mares and Sandbar Sally is a nice prospect for this. The negative commercial appeal of her stallion, Bugatti Reef, (despite his nice pedigree and deep family), isn't much of a factor if you are breeding to race.

Her lack of a race record is a negative, but your explanation is reasonable, especially given the good success of her older siblings, and her dam.

This mare is actually a candidate to transition to a more commercial mare if her yearling sister, FAIRLY BRIGHT (f. 2003) by Numerous is an even better runner than her stakes placed older siblings.

What I REALLY like about this mare is that her 2 older siblings, Salquest and Sally Q are both stakes placed mares and Salquest is already a producer. Two big holes, Bugatti Reef and no race record to speak of, but 3 hard hitting mares in the first generation all working for you (Sally Q will hopefully hit the shed soon if not already - and she could run).

You've priced this filly fairly and anyone with a tight budget should look at Sally more closely. There's a lot to like here.

Regards,

Pete

P.S.: I'm going to write up her pedigree.

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Postby Pete » Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:27 pm

Hi TBLady,

Can you give an accurate description of Sandbar Sally's conformation, perhaps any idea of how Salquest and SallyQ (older sisters) looked.

I just saw that her 4th dam is Virginia Dare so Sandbar Sally traces female tail to Fragrance then to Sweet Lavender.

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Postby pancho press » Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:35 pm

HI SENT YOU E-MAIL ON HER BUT WANT TO KEEP TACK OF THIS THREAD THANKS RONDA :lol:

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Postby TBLADY » Tue Oct 19, 2004 11:47 am

Pete thank you so much...yes I know her sire is a bit of a downer...must have been a free breeding is all I can say. She is still a maiden with only a handful of starts I believe. This filly shipped into Mountaineer as a 2 yr old with very sore knees. As you had mentioned her two half sisters by Norquestor are blacktyped and one is now a producer...however her connections at the time pushed her I think a little beyond her development and ability...thus the soreness. I feel this filly has a nice developing female family who should help Sallys future as a broodmare. She has a TON of heart. During her Am works she was always a GO GETTER type...hated being passed and wnted to run down horses who were breezing. She just forgot about her bad knees. Her last trainer said she would never be sound unless she had some major time off. So the owners sold her and thus I need to move her to someone willing to breed her to the right sire. I tried to price her accordingly as I know maidens are a dime a doz. At this time she does look sound but I ahve not bene on her nor has anyone else in many weeks.

I do have someone looking at her this afternoon and I will let you know how that goes for us.

I'm not looking to make a killing off of this filly...obviously, I just want to see her get a second chance is all.

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Postby cathyd » Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:48 pm

buggati reef
beautifully bred, very eye appealing but small
I think there might be 10 foals in his first two crops to race
he has gotten some winners. had one claimed last winter for $50,000.
love the dam side
cathyd

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Postby Pete » Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:14 am

Hi TBLady and Cathy,

Clearly you're not trying to make a killing :)

Sounds like you've pegged her right and for a breeder on a budget she makes sense. Good luck selling her.

Cathy, Bugatti is well bred and that's good when there isn't a race record to fall back on - nor a commercial name in that sire.

Regards,

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Postby TBLADY » Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:53 am

Sandbar Sallys conformation discription.....

GOOD sized mare with nice bone...profiles very nice. I didn't get a chance to put a stick on her...would guess 16h and a tad more. Nicely built. Nice hindend, strong through the girth and hip with a nice shoulder. I did see a little bit of off set in her rt knee. but she travels straight on it.


This is a solid built mare with a good bit of growing to do yet. She was looked at yesterday...the breeder who looked at her has a full barn and is working hard to sell her Time To Explode 1ylg filly to make room for Sally in her barn. So with that said, no money changed hands and Sally is still for sale. Price is down to $800 FIRM!

pictures as soon as I can figure out how to use my new digital camera!

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SOLD!

Postby TBLADY » Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:01 am

:lol:

Thank you eveyone...she sold yesterday!

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Postby Pete » Thu Oct 21, 2004 2:16 pm

Congrats!