Does one think an El Prado Stallion is worth $2500?

[Keith]

There is an El Prado stallion for sale for $2500. Does one think he is worth it? He is a good looking horse but he has old ankles. His name is Clever Crawford.

[Pie™]

unless a horse is aged, infirm, crippled, can't be retrained, or something like that - $2,500. for just about any horse is a good price.

I know what you're asking, is he worth standing, but I'm saying; there are very few horses out there that aren't worth somewhere between $1,500-$2,500. regardless of what they can do today, because they can always do something different tomorrow with a little work and time invested.

Its just pretty cheap for a horse IMO

[Keith]

There are alot of well bred stallions but the best sires usually race well. I was just wondering if he would have resale value. My mare is by El Prado so he would not do me any good as far as breeding. My mare did not race well so I want to breed her to a stallion that can run.

[llbean]

Hello Keith, what's the mares name? I was doing some research on El Prado recently and I could probably come up with something.

-llbean

[LSB]

Are you asking whether a stallion that is for sale for $2500 would make a worthwhile stallion prospect on the basis of the fact that he was sired by El Prado? If so, the answer is no. All the top stallions have sons that didn't make it on the track and most can be purchased for peanuts. Without a good race record (or performance record if you wished to market him to the sport horse people) or a truly impeccable pedigree, the chances of him being able to make it as a sire are virtually nil.

[Jessi P]

REMDA, 1992, Jade Hunter- Rea (Arg) by *Redtop 3rd.
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SR SSI
1998 Susan My Love,f,Honor Grades 1 2 0 0 0 280 ( 24) 0.05
North America Turf Record 1 0 0 0 110 ( 24)
North America Dirt Routes 1 0 0 0 170
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 0 0 170
DP = 7-7-12-0-0 DI = 3.33 CD = 0.81
1999 Clever Crawford,c,El Prado (Ire) 3 31 5 5 2 106,780 ( 94) 1.37
North America 2 YO Record 5 0 0 0 570 ( 62)
North America Turf Record 2 0 0 0 170 ( 67)
North America Dirt Sprints 16 3 2 1 63,330 ( 94)
North America Dirt Routes 13 2 3 1 43,280 ( 89)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 1 0 1 0 2,520 ( 83)
DP = 6-4-12-4-0 DI = 1.60 CD = 0.46 AWD = 6.90
2000 Spatial Luke,c,Skywalker 1 3 0 0 0 390 ( 68) 0.04
North America Dirt Sprints 1 0 0 0 130 ( 63)
North America Dirt Routes 2 0 0 0 260 ( 68)
DP = 8-3-5-0-0 DI = 5.40 CD = 1.19
2002 Approved By Dylan,c,With Approval Unraced
DP = 7-5-12-0-0 DI = 3.00 CD = 0.79
SIRE 1.70 Spi, 405str, 29%2yo, 6%1st, 14%Mud/747sts, 14%Tf/999sts, AWD 7.8
DAM(sp) 0.75 Dpi, 1 2yostr/0wnr, 0%Mud/4sts, 2 Tfstr/0wnr, 3 Rtestr/1wnr, AWD 6.9
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REA (ARG), 1981, *Redtop 3rd- =Racha (Arg) by =Voodoo (Arg).
YRS ST WN PL SH EARNED SR SSI
1988 Strawberry's Best,f,Strawberry Road (Aus) 5 24 8 3 4 36,373 ( 87) 1.21
North America 2 YO Record * 7 1 1 1 12,267 ( 87)
North America Dirt Sprints 22 8 3 4 35,518 ( 87)
North America Dirt Routes 2 0 0 0 855 ( 70)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 7 1 1 1 6,371 ( 80)
DP = 1-0-3-2-0 DI = 0.71 CD = 0.00 AWD = 5.81
1990 Franz,c,Allen's Prospect 4 44 3 7 2 43,502 ( 91) 0.70
North America Dirt Sprints 40 3 7 2 42,772 ( 91)
North America Dirt Routes 4 0 0 0 730 ( 84)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 6 1 2 0 22,616 ( 88)
DP = 8-4-8-0-0 DI = 4.00 CD = 1.00 AWD = 6.00
1991 Bukua,f,Jade Hunter Unraced
DP = 8-2-8-0-0 DI = 3.50 CD = 1.00
1992 Remda,f,Jade Hunter 4 33 4 5 4 115,188 ( 92) 2.19
North America 2 YO Record 3 1 0 0 9,250 ( 85)
North America Turf Record * 25 4 3 3 97,033 ( 92)
North America Dirt Sprints 2 0 0 0 550 ( 68)
North America Dirt Routes 6 0 2 1 17,605 ( 90)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 2 0 1 0 6,800 ( 87)
DP = 8-2-8-0-0 DI = 3.50 CD = 1.00 AWD = 8.83
At 3 2nd Revidere S. (O) (35,000), 3rd Bal Harbour S. (O) (31,200), City
Of Hialeah S. (O) (29,100)
1993 Turk,c,Wild Again 7 44 11 13 9 106,247 ( 97) 1.56
North America Dirt Sprints 9 2 2 2 13,987 ( 86)
North America Dirt Routes 35 9 11 7 92,260 ( 97)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 10 1 6 0 19,263 ( 92)
DP = 6-5-7-0-0 DI = 4.14 CD = 0.94 AWD = 7.77
1994 Treasure,f,Trempolino 2 9 1 0 0 15,420 ( 79) 0.89
North America Turf Record 1 0 0 0 0 ( 67)
North America Dirt Sprints 6 1 0 0 15,420 ( 79)
North America Dirt Routes 2 0 0 0 0 ( 68)
DP = 5-1-6-0-0 DI = 3.00 CD = 0.92 AWD = 6.00
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEEJAN 1995 583 $23,000 $42,500 ylg ( 8/12) $20,000
1995 Overreactshawn,c,Cleone 3 11 2 2 0 48,475 ( 97) 1.86
North America 2 YO Record 5 1 1 0 18,075 ( 90)
North America Turf Record 1 0 0 0 185 ( 72)
North America Dirt Sprints 7 1 2 0 25,490 ( 92)
North America Dirt Routes 3 1 0 0 22,800 ( 97)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 2 0 0 0 925 ( 92)
DP = 2-1-5-0-0 DI = 2.20 CD = 0.63 AWD = 7.00
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
OBSOCT 1995 755 $2,300 $2,880 wlg ( 3/ 5) NA
1997 Re A Fax,f,Cutlass Fax 5 65 11 16 6 119,074 ( 89) 0.88
North America 2 YO Record 6 1 2 0 8,715 ( 74)
North America Turf Record 14 1 5 2 23,425 ( 85)
North America Dirt Sprints 20 3 4 1 24,665 ( 89)
North America Dirt Routes 31 7 7 3 70,984 ( 89)
North America Muddy/Sloppy 8 1 1 0 10,194 ( 87)
DP = 0-2-3-1-0 DI = 1.40 CD = 0.17 AWD = 7.57
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
OBSAPR 1999 435 $5,700 $6,450 2yo ( 2/ 2) NA
1998 Raizin,f,Hazaam Unraced
DP = 7-0-9-0-2 DI = 1.77 CD = 0.56
Sold at Hip # Sales Price Sire Avg Rank Stud Fee
KEEJAN 1999 1521 $3,700 $10,772 ylg (25/29) $4,000

[Keith]

Her name is Lady Wrong Song and she is bred to Tri Line

[madelyn]

He might be worth $2500 if he was sound and a gelding....

[Waquoit]

For what it's worth I have seen this stud in person. He is a very, very impressive individual from a physical standpoint. In addition, he is out of a Jade Hunter mare.

I looked up his race record and he has earned $109K in 39 starts, mostly in allowance company at Philly Park and Delaware. I liked him - he's of a rare quality for the track he is at and I think the only reason he's racing at Suffolk is he is getting sore.