Cree wrote:It just keeps getting more bizarre.
Word is International Star was a vet scratch....and as a result all of Ramseys horses have scratched.
They move down from 20 I think.
AP in post 16 now.
Hi Cree,
As you thought and according to what I just read, the 1 and 20 post positions will be left vacant. So here's the way I see the current field with their new post positions. If they scratch another horse, I'm playing golf and the heck with this Derby:>) I will be making changes to my original picks. TJ
1. PP. 2 Ocho Ocho Ocho (126) Trujillo/Cassidy 50-1
2. PP 3 Carpe Diem (126) Velazquez/Pletcher 8-1
3. PP 4 Materiality (126) Castellano/Pletcher 12-1
4. PP 5 Tencendur (126) Franco/Weaver 30-1
5. PP 6 Danzig Moon (126) Leparoux/Casse 30-1
6. PP 7 Mubtaahij (126) Soumillon/de Kock 20-1
8. PP 8 Dortmund (126) Garcia/Baffert 3-1
9. PP 9 Bolo (126) Bejarano/Gaines 30-1
10. PP 10 Firing Line (126) Stevens/Callaghan 12-1
With the Stanford scratch, who was in post 11 we see this:
Now With the International Star scratch who had post 11:
13. PP 11 Itsaknockout (126) Saez/Pletcher 30-1
14. PP 12 Keen Ice (126) Desormeaux/Romans 50-1
15. PP 13 Frosted (126) Rosario/McLaughlin 15-1
16. PP 14 War Story (126) Talamo/Amoss 50-1
17. PP 15 Mr. Z (126) Vazquez/Lukas 50-1
18. PP 16 American Pharoah (126) Espinoza/Baffert 5-2
19. PP 17 Upstart (126) Ortiz/Violette 15-1
20. PP 18 Far Right (126) Smith/Moquett 30-1
21. PP 19 Frammento (126) Nakatani/Zito 50-1
After reviewing the new post positions (and if I didn't mess it up:>) I see a couple major shifts. TJ
American Pharoah...it seems like the stars have aligned for him, ending up with post positions 16, one of the best a horse could have out of the Auxiliary gate. With this I believe he can overcome his breeding, speed from that position is very tough to beat, he's in the proverbial catbird seat:>)
Upstart...a hard luck horse, gets post 17 which has never produced a Derby winner and the last in the money runner was Forty Niner in 1988.
Frosted who had a good position in the auxiliary gate, now moves in two slots in the main gate to post 13. It is better then the 14 which he was in, so he won't be penalized with this spot.
Firing Line finds himself in a good post position coming out of the 10 slot.
Dortmund was never shuffled by the scratches and retained his 8 post position, which is a very good spot to be in.
Mubtaahij benefits with his move to a more productive PP 7....Street Sense (2007) was the last winner from post 7 and Bodemeister the last in the money.
Ocho Ocho Ocho, Carpe Diem, Materiality all benefit slightly with the move off the rail.
Tencendur moves to post 5 a very productive post overall and in the last 20 years.