KY Derby Point Standings*PP's posted and scratch updates

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Re: Kentucky Derby Point Standings

Postby Joltman » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:36 am

Cree wrote:Gronkowski is in too, which bumps Combatant.

Pletcher has 4 in the top 5.


Yes, and Asmussen is out at the moment, but with the next four waiting in the wings! I'm sure at least one, most likely two, will slide in by the time of the draw.

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Re: Kentucky Derby Point Standings

Postby Aug27 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:38 am

Has Instilled Regard been withdrawn from consideration?

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Re: Kentucky Derby Point Standings

Postby TJ » Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:56 pm

Aug27 wrote:Has Instilled Regard been withdrawn from consideration?

Hi Aug,
Yes, Instilled Regard is out. Will post the final tally shortly...this one has Gronkowski listed. TJ

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Re: Kentucky Derby Point Standings

Postby TJ » Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:03 pm

Final Tally and the field as it stands for the 144th Kentucky Derby (barring any misfortune or defections). TJ

1. Gronkowski...Jeremy Noseda
2. Magnum Moon...Todd Pletcher 150 $1,140,000
3. Good Magic...Chad Brown 134 $1,838,400
4. Audible...Todd Pletcher 110 $803,520
5. Noble Indy...Todd Pletcher 110 $640,000
6. Vino Rosso...Todd Pletcher 107 $572,500
7. Bolt d'Oro...Mick Ruis 104 $980,000
8. Enticed...Kiaran McLaughlin 103 $545,880
9. Mendelssohn...Aidan O'Brien 100 $1,947,299
10. Justify...Bob Baffert 100 $600,000
11. Quip Rodolphe...Brisset 90 $412,000
12. Flameaway...Mark Casse 70 $672,260
13. Solomini...Bob Baffert 54 $716,000
14. Bravazo...D. Wayne Lukas 54 $359,913
15. My Boy Jack...Keith Desormeaux 52 $622,000
16. Promises Fulfilled...Dale Romans 52 $266,480
17. Free Drop Billy...Dale Romans 44 $597,200
18. Lone Sailor...Tom Amoss 42 $273,347
19. Hofburg...Bill Mott 40 $192,000
20. Firenze Fire...Jason Servis 39 $647,50

Bubble Boys:>)
21. Combatant...Steve Asmussen 32 $350,000
22. Instilled Regard... Jerry Hollendorfer 29 points............connections had a change of heart.
23. Snapper Sinclair...Steve Asmussen 22 $321,810
24. Blended Citizen...Doug O'Neill 22 $159,644
25. Reride...Steve Asmussen 20 $298,000
26. Dream Baby Dream...Steve Asmussen 20 $181,000
27. Restoring Hope...Bob Baffert 20 $100,000
28. Sporting Chance...D. Wayne Lukas 12 $337,000
29. Greyvitos...Adam Kitchingman 12 $310,000
30. Givemeaminit...Dallas Stewart 12 $196,000
31. Pony Up...Todd Pletcher 12 $101,580
32. Machismo...Anthony Quartarolo 5 $25,422
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Re: Kentucky Derby Point Standings

Postby TJ » Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:36 pm

Mac wrote:Really enjoy the analysis and comments that are in the handicapping session. You guys provide great insight. What a talented group for the Derby this year...I will be watching this one with more excitement than usual.

I breed one or two mares a year, always aiming for classic distance types...so the pedigrees are fascinating to me. This many scat daddys and curlins...wow. Leslie Lady as a paternal grand-dam of one entry and the dam of another. Very influential mare.

Hi Mac,
I agree, we are lucky to have so many knowledgeable posters contributing here on PQ. I certainly agree with you concerning Leslie's Lady...she is quite the broodmare, producing Derby contender Mendelssohn, the great Beholder and top sire Into Mischief who sired Derby prospect Audible. TJ

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Re: Kentucky Derby Point Standings

Postby TJ » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:36 pm

No sense wasting time....with 19 days remaining until the 1st Saturday in May, might as well get a jump on the handicapping process. Take note Blended Citizen's connections had a change of heart and will supplement him to the Kentucky Derby. He ended up in the 23rd spot, right in the middle of Asmussen's 4. One last note...they did not enter Blended Citizen's pp's in this link...maybe they will be added at a later date, as they probably recently made the payment? Here's the link to the Derby PP's. TJ
http://www.brisnet.com/wp-content/uploa ... Points.pdf

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Re: Kentucky Derby Point Standings

Postby TJ » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:15 pm

TJ wrote:
Aug27 wrote:Has Instilled Regard been withdrawn from consideration?

Hi Aug,
Yes, Instilled Regard is out. Will post the final tally shortly...this one has Gronkowski listed. TJ

Hi Aug,
Seems Instilled Regard's connections have changed their minds and will take up their rightful position on the bubble behind Combatant. TJ

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Re: KY Derby Point Standings*PP's posted and scratch updates

Postby Aug27 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:44 pm

Cool! I have him in the futures pool ...

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Re: KY Derby Point Standings*PP's posted and scratch updates

Postby TJ » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:46 pm

Here's an eye popping workout for Lone Sailor going in company with Pearls Opinion and Blaze a Trail. The 2nd place finisher in the GR II LA Derby was far, far behind his workmates as they left the 5/8ths pole. Watch the work below. TJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zm_QJY7AaI

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Re: KY Derby Point Standings*PP's posted and scratch updates

Postby Georgerz » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:58 pm

Quip, who is 11 on the list, has been declared out of the KD, and will point for the Preakness, instead. The trainer thinks that three weeks after the Arkansas Derby is too soon.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -preakness

Also, the European horse has gotten sick, and won't travel to Kentucky:
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... to-illness

That will make room for Combatant and Instilled Regard to join the rooster.

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Re: KY Derby Point Standings*PP's posted and scratch updates

Postby TJ » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:39 pm

Georgerz wrote:Quip, who is 11 on the list, has been declared out of the KD, and will point for the Preakness, instead. The trainer thinks that three weeks after the Arkansas Derby is too soon.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -preakness

Also, the European horse has gotten sick, and won't travel to Kentucky:
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... to-illness

That will make room for Combatant and Instilled Regard to join the rooster.

Hi George,
Well that's good news...two defections and both will live to fight another day. Combatant makes four in the Derby sired by Scat Daddy along with Justify, Mendelssohn and Flameaway. Aug. 27 will be glad to hear Instilled Regard got in:>) TJ

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Re: KY Derby Point Standings*PP's posted and scratch updates

Postby skeenan » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:41 am

Gronk is out, due to an illness.
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... ont-stakes

The Derby date has snuck up on me this year... hard to get my head into it, when we're still getting snowed on (just last week, here in New England). :D

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Re: KY Derby Point Standings*PP's posted and scratch updates

Postby Aug27 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:57 am

I am glad Instilled Regard is in!
I see many similarities between him and Giacomo ...
Hard to get past Justify, in my opinion, but "stranger things have happened."

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Re: KY Derby Point Standings*PP's posted and scratch updates

Postby Georgerz » Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:22 pm

Would Seahenge be allowed to run in the Derby? I have seen some comments in other places stating that he would take the place of Gronkowski. That would bump out Instilled Regard, won't it?

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Re: KY Derby Point Standings*PP's posted and scratch updates

Postby TJ » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:08 pm

Georgerz wrote:Would Seahenge be allowed to run in the Derby? I have seen some comments in other places stating that he would take the place of Gronkowski. That would bump out Instilled Regard, won't it?

Hi George,
According to the rules of the Euro Road to Kentucky only the top 4 point earners are eligible to claim a spot in the Derby. Seahenge was 10th on the points list...but it's possible he could come to Kentucky and run in the Pat Day Mile? Though the GR I English 2000 Guineas is also a possibility for him in his homeland. TJ