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Pictures of these rare Australian TBs

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:15 pm
by Jorge
Dear Collaborators,

Would really like to have the opportunity to see a picture on these very rare phenotype horses from Australia. Thanks in advance for any assistance.


01. GOLDHILL PARK (Bay H 1994) http://www.pedigreequery.com/goldhill+park

02. IN THE HAND (Gray or Brown 1994) http://www.pedigreequery.com/in+the+hand3

03. LILAC HILL (Bay M 2000) http://www.pedigreequery.com/lilac+hill2

04. RED NOBLE (Bay G 1996) http://www.pedigreequery.com/red+noble3

05. WHISTLE DOWN (Chestnut H 1999) http://www.pedigreequery.com/whistle+down2

06. “by CATCH A BIRD—BENDING STAR” (Bay M 1997)
her dam’s pedigree at http://www.pedigreequery.com/bending+star

07. WILD DOVE (Bay M 1997) http://www.pedigreequery.com/wild+dove3

08. SLIP CATCH (Bay M 1993) http://www.pedigreequery.com/slip+catch

09. TURFSIDE STAR (Bay H 1998) http://www.pedigreequery.com/turfside+star

10. FLOYD (Chestnut H 2004) http://www.pedigreequery.com/floyd5

11. BLETCH CATCH (Bay M 2005) http://www.pedigreequery.com/bletch+catch

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:18 pm
by Jorge
In case number 8, as an adult mare.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/slip+catch

Thanks for your help.

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:10 am
by Jorge
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:02 am
by Jorge
To our Australian members:

Any recent news on Catch A Bird's alleged roan descendants?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:12 am
by Jorge
Hope our Australian/New Zealand members may possess some information:

Any recent news on the names and careers of:

10. FLOYD (Chestnut H 2004) http://www.pedigreequery.com/floyd5

11. BLETCH CATCH (Bay M 2005) http://www.pedigreequery.com/bletch+catch

Thanks for informing!

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:04 am
by color
the links are not working for me, says horse not in data base

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:36 am
by Jorge
Its a little difficult to understand how come these important phenotypical cases are practically ignored within the Thoroughbred breed. These cases are breakthrough equines.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:21 pm
by Jorge
If you click the following topic:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/view ... c&start=75

then page № 6, then posting № 6, (author: “Color”)

there are 3 interesting photos that deserve being posted here too:

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:48 pm
by Roguelet
The following pictures were copied here from a post in another thread made by "Color"

Lavender Fields - TB filly - bay roan
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Pink Floyd - TB colt - red roan
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Slip Catch - TB mare - bay roan
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Slip Catch had so far 4 roan offspring and I think everyone will agree that these are TRUE roans.

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:38 pm
by Jorge
These cases deserves special attention

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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:17 pm
by RiddleMeThis
I posted some interesting information that you might like Jorge on the "Changing" thread. I can copy it to here to keep all of that information together if you would like.

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:40 am
by Jorge
RiddleMe This,

Please do so. In fact some of the latest posting from that thread really belongs here, for that other thread is more oriented towards coat color in general than the very interesting and crucial topic of "roans".

I perceive this topic as a genuine breakthrough that is unfolding right in front of our eyes, yet so scarce interest is seen among world breeders on this angle (resurrecting the genuine roan color among Thoroughbreds). Imagine we are trying to resurrect a coat color lost for more than two centuries!

Alas we have so little information on this strain! Hope this thread may inspire assistance from many others.

Thank you very much.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:44 am
by RiddleMeThis
There is no a haplotype/zygosity test for roan!! But it is only for QH's and Paints signifying that their may be more than one mutation of roan.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:43 pm
by Nessa
I've always thought that the roan that CAB's offspring was somehow related to rabicano, all of his roan colored offsping have the snow-white tail caps, and rabicano doesn't touch the head or legs. Is there a test for rabicano, if so that would make finding a mutation that much easier.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:55 pm
by RiddleMeThis
Nessa wrote:I've always thought that the roan that CAB's offspring was somehow related to rabicano, all of his roan colored offsping have the snow-white tail caps, and rabicano doesn't touch the head or legs. Is there a test for rabicano, if so that would make finding a mutation that much easier.
Rabicano also doesnt touch the neck or ANY of the legs really. And True Roan can also color the tail head, and there is nothing stopping them from being true roan and rabicano.

Here are some roan stallions with white tail heads (they are also thought to be homozygous for roan.
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Rabicano also tends to create rib striping as well, which true roan normally doesnt do. For example:
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