Interesting site............yellow or mink.......!

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Interesting site............yellow or mink.......!

Postby Jorge » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:13 pm

Came across the following interesting and educational site.

It is very important to clarify, though, that albinism doesn't exist in Thoroughbreds. In other words, a white Thoroughbred should not be called albino.

But since the photographs shown in this site are so nice, hope you will enjoy it:

http://www.grandpacliff.com/Animals/Albinos-Intro.htm

It is interesting to notice that in some species (like crocs and snakes), some albinos are seen as yellow, while others are seen as mink white. How interesting!

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Postby mehile » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:36 pm

Also the picture they have of an albino cow isn't realy an albino. It's just a bred that's white but with dark skin. I agree though most of the pictues are very cool 8)

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Postby mehile » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:46 pm

I really like the Albino male Peacock. It looks awsome. :lol:

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Postby Jorge » Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:46 pm

There is something that really grabs the attention!
If you click to the following page of the site:

http://grandpacliff.com/Animals/Albinos-FishRepAm.htm

you will notice a picture of an "Albino Pine Snake"
and an "Albino Alligator". Both are completely mink white.

But actually, previous to finding these pictures today, all the so-called albino snakes and alligators I had seen before sported a yellow color, like the one seen in the "Sulcata Tortoise" picture shown between them.

Do you agree?

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Postby mehile » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:11 pm

When I was younger they had one of the real Albino Alligators at the zoo nearby us. I actually have pictures of it. :D All of the snakes I've ever seen that were "albino" had the yellow on them like the king snake on the web site. The first snake on there looks almost clear :shock:

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Postby Jorge » Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:00 am

This issue or correspondence between the yellow and the mink makes one
extrapolate and ponder whether there may well be some compatibility between yellow and white hairs in Thoroughbreds.

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Postby mehile » Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:10 pm

It seems a bit like the cream gene in horses. If you get one your yellow, if you get two your creamy white(not quite mink white but it's close). I wonder if there is some sort of link between the cream gene and the albino gene?

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Postby Jorge » Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:03 pm

mehile wrote:It seems a bit like the cream gene in horses. If you get one your yellow, if you get two your creamy white(not quite mink white but it's close). I wonder if there is some sort of link between the cream gene and the albino gene?


Mehile,

Thank you very much for bringing up this angle. Hmmm,
haven't noticed that possibility. The eyes of the creams are
really captivating. Interesting indeed. More opinions?

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Postby kimberley mine » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:27 am

Albinism is the complete or partial absence of melanin production by the body. An animal with white hair (or feathers or scales) and dark skin, eyes, and nails (hooves, claws, etc) is not an albino. They may be white, or may be leucistic. The white alligators with blue eyes are leucistic.

Albino reptiles may have yellow mottling patterns on them because they produce other types of pigment beside melanin.

FWIW, the gene that causes sabino markings is also present in people. The most common form is a white lock of hair--a star--near the forehead. More extreme cases will have lack of pigment on the forearms, lower legs, and belly.

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Postby Nessa » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:23 pm

Jorge wrote:
mehile wrote:It seems a bit like the cream gene in horses. If you get one your yellow, if you get two your creamy white(not quite mink white but it's close). I wonder if there is some sort of link between the cream gene and the albino gene?


Mehile,

Thank you very much for bringing up this angle. Hmmm,
haven't noticed that possibility. The eyes of the creams are
really captivating. Interesting indeed. More opinions?


He's not a TB Jorge, but here is a very nice looking horse. Captivating eyes and all.

http://www.goldendreams.ca/golden-dreams/habib/
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Postby Nessa » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:26 pm

Jorge wrote:
mehile wrote:It seems a bit like the cream gene in horses. If you get one your yellow, if you get two your creamy white(not quite mink white but it's close). I wonder if there is some sort of link between the cream gene and the albino gene?


Mehile,

Thank you very much for bringing up this angle. Hmmm,
haven't noticed that possibility. The eyes of the creams are
really captivating. Interesting indeed. More opinions?


He's not a TB Jorge, but here is a very nice looking horse. Captivating eyes and all.

http://www.goldendreams.ca/golden-dreams/habib/
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Postby Jorge » Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:09 pm

Thank you so much for sharing this link. :shock: Wowzer!
His dame, Aykhanum, made me remember the very beautiful Faux Finish.

By the way, what makes the chestnuts of that Breed so beautiful?
Can anyone with first hand experience on these horses shed more light on this issue?

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Postby Nessa » Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:15 pm

It's the make up of the hairshaft itself. The core of the hairshaft is reduced or missing altogether. There is a link to some pretty Tekes and at the bottom there is a photo that shows the difference.

http://akhal-teke.org/coatmanycolors.htm


Here is another link to some relly different looking horses.
http://www.homozygous-horses.com/weird.html
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Postby Jorge » Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:56 pm

Nessa,

Thank you so much for the wonderful and valuable reference. The explanation is superb. Great!

All the Best,

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Postby xfactor fan » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:03 am

Jorge,
Off topic, but do you have a conformation photo of Trevista dam of Forli?
Also I'm managed to misplace the link to both the Argentine champion website, and the Brazilian TB site that is like the pedigree query site with lots of pedigrees and images.

Thanks