Query for Dilutes Breeders (CHAMPAGNE TBs)

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Postby reedhill » Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:18 pm

What a beautiful stallion that PERCENTAGE, sire of Three Bars was, and then way back again as you said BEND OR.......

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Postby Jorge » Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:29 pm

PERCENTAGE: From the photo he looks like an unquestionable sabino
not to even mention his pedigree: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/percentage

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Postby Jorge » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:29 pm

When I read the following topic and see Blue Eyed Streaker

http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/post ... ly&t=24514

I immediately think if there is any possible link between certain sabinos and the champagnes. But of course it's only speculative.

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Postby RiddleMeThis » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:40 pm

Jorge wrote:When I read the following topic and see Blue Eyed Streaker

http://www.pedigreequery.com/forum/post ... ly&t=24514

I immediately think if there is any possible link between certain sabinos and the champagnes.
Why??

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Postby Jorge » Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:05 am

Jorge wrote:But of course it's only speculative.


The color of the eyes seems to be like those of the champagnes when born. But as clearly cited, its only speculative. No proof at all.

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Postby xfactor fan » Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:16 pm

Tennessee Stud
by Jimmy Driftwood

Along about eighteen and twenty-five
I left Tennessee very much alive
I never would have got through the Arkansas mud
If I hadn't been a-ridin on the Tennessee stud

I had some trouble with my sweetheart's pa
One of her brothers was a bad outlaw
I sent her a letter by my Uncle Fud
And I rode away on the Tennessee stud

CHORUS:
The Tennessee stud was long and lean
The color of the sun and his eyes were green
He had the nerve and he had the blood
And there never was a hoss like the Tennessee stud

One day I was ridin' in the beautiful land
And ran smack into an Indian band
They jerked their knives with a whoop and a yell
But I rode away like a bat out of hell

Well I circled their camp for a time or two
And showed what a Tennessee hoss could do
And them redskin boys never got my blood
'Cause I was a-ridin' on the Tennessee stud

CHORUS

We drifted on down into no man's land
We crossed the river called the Rio Grande
I raced my hoss with the Spaniards bold
Till I got me a skin full of silver and gold

Me and a gambler we couldn't agree
We got in a fight over Tennessee
We jerked our guns, he fell with a thud
And I got away on the Tennessee stud

CHORUS

Well, I got as lonesome as a man can be
Dreamin' of my girl in Tennessee
The Tennessee stud's green eyes turned blue
'Cause he was a-dneamin' of a sweetheart too

We loped on back across Arkansas
I whipped her brother and I whipped her pa
I found that girl with the golden hair
And she was ridin' on a Tennessee mare

CHORUS

Stirrup to stirrup and side by side
We crossed the mountains and the valleys wide
We came to Big Muddy and we forded the flood
On the Tennessee mare and the Tennessee stud

Pretty little baby on the cabin floor
Little hoss colt playin' 'round the door
I love the girl with golden hair
And the Tennessee stud loves the Tennessee mare

CHORUS

©1958 Warden Music Company, Inc. (BMI)

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Postby reedhill » Sun May 10, 2009 12:50 am

http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-127061

No ordinary chestnut here, looks like champagne to me in a way.
Just goes to show, unless we are God, we DON'T know what horses in the past have "mutated" or "evolved" into newly recognized colors. I think his color is unique.

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Postby RiddleMeThis » Sun May 10, 2009 2:33 am

reedhill wrote:http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-127061

No ordinary chestnut here, looks like champagne to me in a way.
Just goes to show, unless we are God, we DON'T know what horses in the past have "mutated" or "evolved" into newly recognized colors. I think his color is unique.
I think he looks like a body clipped chestnut.

ETA:Actually reminds me quite a bit of this girl
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Postby reedhill » Sun May 10, 2009 5:35 am

yeah it does, but his tail has a lot of color in it, and his body tint appears to have a gold appearance. the mare I saw on CANTER was more the "buckskin" appearing type champagne..........pretty colors anyways.

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Postby Jorge » Sun May 10, 2009 6:07 am

Tennessee Stud by Jimmy Driftwood

Let's hear this great song: :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TJjFEGN ... re=related

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Postby helen in FL » Sun May 10, 2009 8:56 pm

reedhill wrote:http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-127061

No ordinary chestnut here, looks like champagne to me in a way.
Just goes to show, unless we are God, we DON'T know what horses in the past have "mutated" or "evolved" into newly recognized colors. I think his color is unique.


I am so tempted to go check him out whenever I do a trip down to Leesburg to visit family. He is certainly and interesting looking one.

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Postby reedhill » Sun May 10, 2009 10:16 pm

Just out of BIG curiosity, I emailed the owner and asked if the gelding had been body clipped, also, what color were his eyes, if he had any purple speckling around his eyes, muzzle, groin........I will let you know as soon as I get word :wink:

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Postby Jorge » Mon May 25, 2009 10:49 am

Reedhill,

Any response from the owner on the aforementioned case?

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Postby reedhill » Mon May 25, 2009 10:56 am

Yes, I'm sorry.......I thought I already told you all.
He was chestnut, BUT body clipped.
Oh well, we will keep watching for one! :wink:

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Postby Linda_d » Mon May 25, 2009 7:34 pm

reedhill wrote:Returning to the possibility of a champagne Thoroughbred, I noticed that
in Quarter Horses the champagne color is related, at least, to the strain of Take Care O Neall via:

Not far enough back Jorge, see this mare much further back in his pedigree: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/gracie+buck2 1946.


I don't think that any of those horses were registered as "champagne" by the AQHA since they were all deceased before the AQHA accepted the champagne color. Some of these horses even predate the AQHA. This is a case of somebody changing historical records based on their own prejudices.