Two of my stallions offered at Auction...

[BlazingColours]

As some of you may already know I am now on the board of directors with a new association called “The Southern Ontario Thoroughbred Association” (SOTA). We are running a stallion seasons auction which runs from Jan 24 to Feb 6. I have offered two of my stallions in it.

El Dorado who is a 16.3h cremello Thoroughbred.



and Cloud Ten who is a 16.2h palomino and white Thoroughbred.


Bidding starts at 1/3rd the stud fee!!! This is the first time that I have ever offered any of my stallions in a stallions season auction; so it is a great opportunity for you to get a breeding to one of them at less than cost!!! Register to bid here. and see all the stallions. http://www.thoroughbredniagara.com/stallion_auction.html and
Here is where the bidding will take place. http://s3.excoboard.com/exco/forum.php?forumid=68872

Good Luck to all... If anyone has ANY specific questions please e-mail me. [email protected]

SOTA is a division of Thoroughbred Niagara which is a non-profit organization that is dedicated to bringing Thoroughbred and half-Thoroughbred owners, breeders and competitors together. We are going to be hosting a line class series this year and at least one of the shows will be held our new state of the art equestrian facility. SOTA will also be helping to find new homes for Thoroughbreds whose racing careers are over! SOTA is working on a point system so that any Thoroughbred or half-Thoroughbred who competes at ANY show (Schooling, Bronze, Silver or Gold) throughout Ontario can work towards year end awards in the respective divisions. There will be Hunter, Jumper, Dressage and Eventing categories. We will also be holding a silent auction in July, a tack swap in March and a few clinics throughout the year. You can learn more about this wonderful association here.http://www.thoroughbredniagara.com/index.html

I am also encouraging people to join this new association and have included that members of SOTA will receive 10% off any stud fee purchased from me. The 10% discount will more than pay for your membership. Membership is $30 for personal and $50 for businesses. A Membership form can be found here at the top of the page to the right…http://www.thoroughbredniagara.com/index.html

Happy bidding...

[belambi]

Purely hypothetical question.. But.. In USA / Canada.. can a TB stallion do AI.. (I realise that the progeny cant be registered..) ..In Australia if the stallion is found to have done AI.. then nothing from that year can be registerd.. Just curious?

[accphotography]

OMG wow! No it's not like that here. They won't register the resulting foal, but any foals bred by live cover are fine. Wow that would be awful!!

[BlazingColours]

Yeah not like that in Canada either... That is crazy to even think of stallion owners having to chose between AI or LC.

JC stallions can be collected and ship to mares but if bred to JC mares AI; no papers.

We ship semen to non TB mares and LC for TB mares if the owner wants papers.

[Squishy]

I know this might be a stupid question but does the stallion season have to be used for this year or can it be used next year?

[BlazingColours]

Depending on the stallion chosen. Some stallion owners will offer it only this year and some for a 2 year period or more.

If you are asking about one of my stallions (El Dorado or Cloud Ten) I might do a contract for 2011. E-mail me at [email protected] with your questions and we can go from there. If it is about one of the other stallions in the auction you will have to e-mail the owner and ask.

Generally each stallion owner will use their breeding contract. And like some do a one year only, some do a 2 year, and some do a 2 year with the booking fee being re-paid if it goes into year 3. So not a stupid question at all as each stallion contract is a bit different.

[BlazingColours]

Still a few days left to get your bids in!

I know there are several people waiting until closer to the auction close to try and sneak in a deal Good luck to all...

[color]

Well it is the thing here! We have to decide of AI or live cover. A stallion is only allowed to ONE of these choises due to hygenic reasons in breeding. So my TBs have to do live cover which limits their breeding.

[xfactor fan]

I took a look at your website to see your guys. Lovely photos by the way. Just have a minor question. Cloud Ten is listed as maximum sabino, not Dominant White. Are you sure he's a maximum sabino? Given the family it seem unlikely.

Great horses, and lots of lovely photos.

You must be proud of your farm.

[BlazingColours]

Cloud Ten is listed as a palomino and white and/or max. sabino for purely marketing purposes. He could very well be DW but for the following reason he is not listed as such.

DW is so new that many people do not really understand it and even MORE people have never heard of it. When people inquire about a "max sabino" and are interested in the genetics, I do chat about DW and direct them to the studies that have been published on DW. And that is about as far as I take it.

Many riders/trainers do not really care about the technical terms behind why there is a lot of white markings. And because my MAIN focus is selling to riders/trainers, not people who are breeding for colour, I use terms they will understand. I have sold a couple horses to breeding homes but generally they go to competition homes. So when marketing horses for sale or stud, one (horse/stallion owner) has to think about what the *general* equine population will search for and understand. MANY people understand that sabino means more than regular white markings, so it is the obvious choice when writing ads.

Still after years and years of the word cremello being *known*, many riders/trainers still call them albino. Lol. So it will be quite some time before the *general* equestrian population will understand (never mind do searches for) dominate white.

And a perfect example is… I sold an all white chestnut colt this past fall and the buyer was searching for a max sabino when browsing ads. If I had marketed that colt as DW, which he could very well be, she would have never happened upon his ad.

Hope that answers your question.

[accphotography]

Despite being a majorly OCD color freak, I agree with April. I think if someone inquires about the horse and they are curious about the genetics, then by all means tell them. However, dominant white is SOOO little known to the general public right now that it just confuses matters for advertising purposes. Many, many horses who have tested positive for DW are still listed as sabino by their owners for this reason.

[BlazingColours]

I took a look at your website to see your guys. Lovely photos by the way.
Great horses, and lots of lovely photos.

You must be proud of your farm.

Thanks so MUCH! Comments like this make me smile every time I take a lot of pride in my horses and farm. I still feel like a young kid living out her dreams...

[Fair Play]

Purely hypothetical question.. But.. In USA / Canada.. can a TB stallion do AI.. (I realise that the progeny cant be registered..) ..In Australia if the stallion is found to have done AI.. then nothing from that year can be registerd.. Just curious?

It is the same in Canada as all Thoroughbreds get registered in Kentucky first for their Jockey Club (registration papers). From there, their Canadian papers are merely an additional sheet stating where they were born for eligibility purposes in certain races and for certain bonuses. It is the same governing body who actually confirms who they are and issues the first papers so live cover and all the same rules. If someone wanted a sport horse and did AI, they could always register as a sport horse.