Daughter of Mr P, supposed colour producer $750

[Shannon]

This caught my eye, taken from the L.O.P.E. trainer listings site, photos availible there:

Right In Time: 10 year @16.2H+ chestnut mare. "Penny" is a wonderful broodmare! Very well bred (by Mr. Prospector and out of Countless Times by Countless Moments). This is big mare with lots of body and 16-2+ hands. She is an easy breeder and has huge foals – her 4 year old is 18 hands. She is also pleasant to work with and is good in broodmare situations, usually one of the low mares in the pecking order. No health or foot problems. She is a color producer for those interested in crossing her to color stallions. With her size and her huge trot, Penny would definitely be an asset to a H/J or show breeding home. Two of her foals are in H/J homes. Good home essential - Penny was adopted from LOPE in 2004 and will only be permitted to go to an excellent, loving home. Current owner is rehoming Penny because her foals are too large for her Appaloosa cross breeding program. $750. Located in College Station, Texas. Contact Nancy Magnussen at [email protected] or 979-690-0747.

[Sysonby]

She's a granddaughter of Mr P not a daughter and that broodmare is her sire's not hers

http://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pedig ... ndicator=Y

[Jessi P]

Make that a Great-granddaughter of Mr P. Her 4 yo is eighteen hands, eh? "Color" me just a tad skeptical.

[Shannon]

Yeah, thought it was too good to be real...thought anyone with a Mr P daughter would be asking more than $750, no matter what economic climate they lived in!
Thanks for the info...

[asti]

http://www.hopescreekranch.com/sales/sales.html

Found this video of the 'huge' gelding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZAZUe6n7-M

[Shannon]

He does look pretty big, but 18hh? I don't think so, I'd be surprised if he's really even 17hh.

[Sysonby]

To be fair to these folks, I've seen this stuff alot on sporthorse breeding forums. They seem to treat a sire 5 generations back the same way you would normally refer to the immediate sire.

[Toccet02]

To be fair to these folks, I've seen this stuff alot on sporthorse breeding forums. They seem to treat a sire 5 generations back the same way you would normally refer to the immediate sire.

OK, great, everyone else does it, but it is simply incorrect.
Buyer beware--do your own research . . .

[madelyn]

They seem to do that in the Quarter Horse world also, generating the phrase "an OWN DAUGHTER of" or "an OWN SON of" when the famous horse in question is actually one of the parents It makes me laugh EVERY TIME I hear it. But I caught myself using it once when talking about one of my good mares with a sporthorse breeder - I mentioned that I had a Sir Ivor mare. The breeder proceeded to talk about the producing descendents of Sir Ivor and asked which "line" she was from. Taken aback, since I would not use the sire's name that way unless it was a direct descendent, I thought it best to put it in the "lingo" and said, "I meant that she is an OWN DAUGHTER of Sir Ivor."

[helen in FL]

Yes the proper term would be Mr. Prospector BRED if not a direct parent. My mare by Dogwood Days was referred as Best Turn BRED because daddy was by him, not her.