Pedigree Query

How long ago did you ask the question? Advances in genetic mapping have been breathtaking.

It kind of depends on what is going on genetically with the early or late greying. Is it a modificaiton of the gene --an extra repeat of a segment? Or something that lives near the gray gene. Or is it something on another chromosome that accelerates the graying process?

First pas at sorting this out would be to look at all the Tapits out of non-gray mares. Do they all gray early? If so it might be infered that the early gray trait is either on the gray gene, or closely linked.

If roughly half the gray, turn light early, and the rest late, that would indicate another chromosome is involved.

xfactor fan wrote:How long ago did you ask the question? Advances in genetic mapping have been breathtaking.

It kind of depends on what is going on genetically with the early or late greying. Is it a modificaiton of the gene --an extra repeat of a segment? Or something that lives near the gray gene. Or is it something on another chromosome that accelerates the graying process?

First pas at sorting this out would be to look at all the Tapits out of non-gray mares. Do they all gray early? If so it might be infered that the early gray trait is either on the gray gene, or closely linked.

If roughly half the gray, turn light early, and the rest late, that would indicate another chromosome is involved.

I asked that question, circa 3 or 4 years ago, so I understand
today's scenario must be quite different.
All of your inquiries are good ones and require more
scientific expertise in order to answer them. In the case of
JIG TIME I was focusing on the observable fact that Native Dancer's
greys tended to betray very dark mane and tail with dark leftover traces rather than the "speckled" stamp seen on the Mahmouds. But of course this is only a visual impression, not a scientific one.

Three graded stakes winners today. Tapit keeps getting better and better.

Jorge wrote:
Originally posted on: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:27 am Post subject: TAPIT -- the next THE TETRARCH? (no kidding)

I don't remember of any gray sire whose sons and daughters were top quality performers fashioning a high percentage of winners in their first start at the track. Awesome. Just take a look at hisincredible numbers.

I am under the impression that we are witnessing the next The Tetrarch (gray H 1911), whose coat color was spread exponentially two generation later, thanks to his role as a broodmare sire: not to tak about his sons.

Wow, this thread was originally posted 2 years and 5 months ago.
By now it has been confirmed extensively.

There is an article in the Bloodhorse regarding Tapit's "Trifecta":
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... s-trifecta

http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=124568

http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?z=Njzp ... it&x=0&y=0


The links are to both Tapit and Mahmoud.

I've always thought Tapit took after Mahmoud, and The AXE II.

Looks like Tapit may be breeding like Mahmoud too.

xfactor fan wrote:http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=124568

http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?z=Njzp ... it&x=0&y=0


The links are to both Tapit and Mahmoud.

I've always thought Tapit took after Mahmoud, and The AXE II.

Looks like Tapit may be breeding like Mahmoud too.

Undeniably, there are several similarities between Tapit and
Mahmoud and between Tapit and The Axe II, that's for sure.

But in my opinion the greatest parallelism occurrs between Tapit and The Tetrarch because of their reiterated ability to sire grey talented male runners, who in turn seems capable of siring grey talented runners too.
The only subtle difference between both stallions is that Tapit has been serving a bigger number of mares while The Tetrarch served a more reduced band of mares. But the comparision is leveled because The Tetrarch only had to compete against a very small number of equine population while Tapit is competing against a huge population of sires, many of whom are quite influential and wealthy worldwide.
For those reasons the huge phenomenom seen with The Tetrarch back during the 1920s is the same phenomenom we are witnessing today with Tapit in the 2010s.

I believe Native Dancer was gray. And you can't get much better than that.

griff

Interesting article on Tapit:

http://www.gainesway.com/articles/tapit ... helor.html

Well, today Joyful Victory became a GRI winner for Tapit, on an easy victory at Santa Anita.

Interesting and talented tail-female lineage for this horse
as a future sire.

RATTLESNAKE BRIDGE
http://www.pedigreequery.com/rattlesnake+bridge

TAPIT and THE TETRARCH!

And this year, Tapit is the leading sire, so far, by a wide margin.

A new GrI winner for Tapit: Constitution won the Florida Derby. Also, at the Fair Grounds, Untappable won the FG Oaks in awesome fashion.

I just wish there were more grays among the elite Tapit runners this season. The good ones are bay or chestnut.