The Grey Gatsby (2014 French Derby wnr) and his phenotype

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The Grey Gatsby (2014 French Derby wnr) and his phenotype

Postby Jorge » Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:10 pm

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

“THE GREY GATSBY”,
http://www.pedigreequery.com/the+grey+gatsby
a grey colt who fashions 4-high-white-leg markings
(extremely rare trait in a grey)
just won the Prix du Jockey Club (French Derby).

Enjoy the video of the race at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Afg3Ar82Q
(Watch for the green/green silks who runs back-pack at the rail.)

The time was a very respectable near track record of 2:05.58 for the 1-5/16 mile

See photos of him at:

http://www.racehorsephotos.co.uk/photo21043424.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/horser ... Derby.html

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ot ... -1-6628317

Order of finish:

01. The Grey Gatsby (gr/ro c 2011) http://www.pedigreequery.com/the+grey+gatsby
02. Shamkiyr
03. Prince Gibraltar
04. Wild Chief
05. Gonna Run
06. Mr Pommeroy
07. Aventador
08. Karakontie
09. Galiway
10. Prestige Vendome (gr/ro c 2011) http://www.pedigreequery.com/prestige+vendome
11. Ayrad
12. Master’s Spirit (gr/ro c 2011) http://www.pedigreequery.com/masters+spirit
13. Earnshaw (gr/ro c 2011) http://www.pedigreequery.com/earnshaw2
14. Free Port Lux
15. Nolohay
16. Stillman

Interesting to note that “THE GREY GATSBY” looks very-very similar
to “MYSTIKO” (http://www.pedigreequery.com/mystiko)
who won the 1991 Two Thousands Guineas Stakes (Eng-Gr-1)
To watch Mystiko’s Classic triumph click-on to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQAWpMc2TAM

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Re: The Grey Gatsby (2014 French Derby wnr) and his phenotyp

Postby Jorge » Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:41 pm

Watch video showing The Grey Gatsby’s clear sabino-patterned face:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQlB3P_d9LI

Another interesting video on a walking The Grey Gatsby:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKkToyxCzkM

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Re: The Grey Gatsby (2014 French Derby wnr) and his phenotyp

Postby Jorge » Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:13 pm

Enjoy the video of the race at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Afg3Ar82Q

If you go to the race video
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Afg3Ar82Q)
you will observe that at frame 2:11, the winning jockey
was about to steer his mount to the outside, towards
Prestige Vendome, but lucky and immediately he corrected
his erroneous maneuver and changed direction to the inside
of the track, where a hole just opened and the rest was history.

That brilliant split-second decision along with his whole
patience ride was a big difference.

Other comments on the race?

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Re: The Grey Gatsby (2014 French Derby wnr) and his phenotyp

Postby Jorge » Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:22 am

What a very nice recollection of historical and dramatic names are present
in THE GREY GATSBY's pedigree!
Its like browsing a book on "who's who" on the most fascinating names of the 20th Century.
See for yourself:

01. Northern Dancer
02. His Majesty
03. Buckpasser
04. Ribot
05. Mahmoud
06. Sharpen up (Native Dancer)
07. Rockefella
08. Caro
09. Dancers Image (Native Dancer)
10. Sailor
11. Tudor Minstrel
12. Al Hattab (The Axe)(Abernant)
13. Bold Ruler
14. High Voltage (Ambiorix)
15. Princequillo
16. Nashua
17. Brown King
18. Black Tie Affair
19. Court Martial
20. Dark Star
21. Lyphard
22. Bold Reason
23. Forli
24. Nantallah
25. Bimelech
26. Exclusive Native
27. Dead Ahead
28. Equipoise
29. Pilate
30. Sicambre
31. Miesque
32. Count Fleet
33. Bull Dog
34. Swaps
35. Hasty Road
36. Crafty Admiral
37. Nijinsky
38. Sir Gallahad

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Re: The Grey Gatsby (2014 French Derby wnr) and his phenotyp

Postby Jorge » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:31 pm

From the 1920s =======
Equipoise
Bull Dog
Pilate

From the 1930s =======
Sir Gallahad
Mahmoud
Bimelech
Brown King

From the 1940s =======
Princequillo
Count Fleet
Nasrullah
Crafty Admiral
Tudor Minstrel
Sicambre
Court Martial
Rockefella

From the 1950s =======
Native Dancer
Ribot
Nashua
Dark Star
Bold Ruler
Swaps
Hasty Road
Sailor
High Voltage (Ambiorix)
Dead Ahead
Nantallah

From the 1960s =======
Northern Dancer
Buckpasser
Dancers Image (Native Dancer)
Al Hattab (The Axe)(Abernant)
Nijinsky
Caro
Sharpen up (Native Dancer)
His Majesty
Exclusive Native
Forli
Bold Reason
Lyphard

From the 1980s =======
Black Tie Affair
Danehill
Sadlers Wells
Miesque

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Re: The Grey Gatsby (2014 French Derby wnr) and his phenotyp

Postby summerhorse » Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:36 pm

He sure is gorgeous!
Every mighty oak was once an acorn that stood its ground.

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Re: The Grey Gatsby (2014 French Derby wnr) and his phenotyp

Postby erins isle » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:10 am

See my post about Australia

http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd? ... category=0

But what a great race The Grey Gatsby ran!
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Re: The Grey Gatsby (2014 French Derby wnr) and his phenotyp

Postby Jorge » Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:07 pm

Erins isle,

Thank so much for your valuable posting at the RP.
Certainly, The Grey Gatsby is impressively ascending in racing
quality with each race (even when finishing below third place).
Overall I really enjoyed his performance, albeit
I would have liked a sooner inside move from him just before
Australia started his overpowering outside rush (a move that ended up sort of compacting the field)
and closed a gap that had opened, and close the opportunity for TGG to save more ground
than he was already saving. In spite of this missed oportunity, he accelerated to the outside
in a way it looked auspicious but the great might that lives in Australia really emerged.
You cannot give this horse any advantage.

The race can be seen at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqswOY_4R6s

Apropos Australia, I have a question for all our readers regarding this extraordinary racehorse:
What European sophomore do you think has the ability to consistently defeat him between 10 and 12 furlongs?

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Re: The Grey Gatsby (2014 French Derby wnr) and his phenotyp

Postby jellac » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:00 pm

The Grey Gatsby's pedigree is like a Nearco/Native Dancer/Nearco/Native Dancer layer cake! All the 'leading lads' of both sire lines seem to be represented in successive 'return' breedings.

From his racing record/performance to date he obviously has inherited the class, the trainability and good mind speed and the classic distance capability of his heirs....not to mention those 'looks' ( :D ) sox and all!

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Re: The Grey Gatsby (2014 French Derby wnr) and his phenotyp

Postby erins isle » Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:49 am

Apropos Australia, I have a question for all our readers regarding this extraordinary racehorse:
What European sophomore do you think has the ability to consistently defeat him between 10 and 12 furlongs

Jorge, I would like to see Australia compete against Taghrooda, but I think this will not happen. When the filly wins the Yorkshire Oaks today, she will run in the Arc, while Australia might go to the Breeders', since O'Brien thinks he is more a a mile and two furlong horse.

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Re: The Grey Gatsby (2014 French Derby wnr) and his phenotyp

Postby dublino » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:24 am

Just like Treve the Taghrooda bubble is burst.

Taghrooda got 15lbs when she won the King George and Treve 11lbs winning the Arc - both are good fillies but getting that weight over 12f is in their advantage - today at level weights against her own sex she was beaten by another good filly.

If Taghrooda is going to the Arc she will be getting the big weight allowance like Treve did last year and will have a chance to win as she is still a good filly.

People forget the weight for age scale when rating these fillies.
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