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Brilliant

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:00 pm
by Derby Lyn
Has this guy been discussed before? http://www.pedigreequery.com/brilliant3

Also wondering about Right of Light.

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:34 pm
by xfactor fan
http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=787972

There's a picture of a painting of Brilliant on the sport horse database.

There is a color painting mentioned in the notes that indicate that Brilliant was really buckskin.

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:28 pm
by Pan Zareta
There are scans of two colour paintings of Brilliant here-
http://www.bloodlines.net/TB/Bios/Brilliant.htm
also a scan of a painting of his son Don Dun.

(The link to the sporthorse-data page requires a login. Is there any way to see it without being registered?)

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:31 am
by xfactor fan
http://www.sporthorse-data.com/horse/78 ... nt-big.jpg

Try this link. The sporthorse site didn't ask for a log in. However they've made some changes. Well worth creating a log in, they are a great resource.

Great link to Brilliant. Thanks for posting. Now someone needs to figure out if Milkie or Glitter Please traces back to that line.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:36 am
by Pan Zareta
xfactor fan wrote:Now someone needs to figure out if Milkie or Glitter Please traces back to that line.


Thanks for the 'no login' link!

I haven't checked for the presence of Brilliant in the nether reaches of Milkie or Glitter Please's pedigrees but Brilliant's dilution came via his dam and was in all likelihood ultimately attributable to Darcy's Yellow Turk who is ubiquitous in TB back pedigree.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:08 pm
by xfactor fan
Looked at Milkie at one point and there is a whole string of brown/bay mares on the female tail side of his pedigree. I'm guessing that that is where it came down. And yes, it is not X linked, but most of the stallions in his pedigree were pretty well known, and more importantly, were clearly chestnut or bay.

Just a guess, but the cream gene may have been hidden on a black, or a dark bay with a heavy dose of sooty.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:33 pm
by Pan Zareta
xfactor fan wrote:Looked at Milkie at one point and there is a whole string of brown/bay mares on the female tail side of his pedigree. I'm guessing that that is where it came down. And yes, it is not X linked, but most of the stallions in his pedigree were pretty well known, and more importantly, were clearly chestnut or bay.

Just a guess, but the cream gene may have been hidden on a black, or a dark bay with a heavy dose of sooty.


I agree with you that Milkie's source is probably female and that the cream dilution can go unrecognized (btw, it's mapped to the MATP gene on ECA21). Have you checked the ASBs to see if any of the North American-breds were reg. as "lt [base coat colour]"?