Over The Top

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Terlingua
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Over The Top

Postby Terlingua » Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:04 pm

I am looking for information on a colt named Over The Top (1934) by Man O' War ex. Cresta (Whisk Broom II). He won 5 races and died in 1940, apparently without any progeny. I own a photo of him working with War Admiral. I would like to know who owned and trained him and how he died. If he had any progeny (none listed here) I would also like to know about them.
Thanks, in advance!

steward
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Postby steward » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:06 pm

Search the archive using the box in the upper right hand corner:

http://kdl.kyvl.org/drf/

There are many hits, including this one (paragraph 10):

http://kdl.kyvl.org/cgi/t/text/pageview ... 2701%3A5.1

Tips: employ the "not sorted" option to get things organized by date. Employ the decade options on the left side of the page to get to the 1930s, 1940s.
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steward
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Postby steward » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:11 pm

Competed (not very successfully) against Seabiscuit, Ligaroti, Today, Aneroid, and other 30s stalwarts.

November 1938 .... Owner: A. M Koewler .... Trainer: W. A. Thomas.

Terlingua
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Postby Terlingua » Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:32 pm

Thank you very much for the help. I really appreciate it!

jjmcgo
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1937 Preakness entries and chart

Postby jjmcgo » Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:36 am

Over The Top finished sixth, beaten 11 lengths in War Admiral's Preakness on May 15, 1937. Here's the chart:
http://kdl.kyvl.org/cgi/t/text/pageview ... assterms=1
Jockey Jackie Westrope rode the 59-1 longshot. Over The Top's owner was Mrs. W. H. Furst. The trainer was B.B. Williams.
Over The Top won his next race, an allowance in Chicago. The chestnut colt by Man o' War-Cresta, by Whisk Broom II won at Aqueduct in June 1936 and won again in his seasonal debut on April 13, 1937 at Havre de Grace. Over The Top ran third to Man o' War 11 days later at HDG in a stakes.
http://kdl.kyvl.org/cgi/t/text/pageview ... 501%3A14.1


The footnote for Over The Top for the Preakess:
OVER THE TOP was kept under strong urging after getting into his
best stride but failed to enter contention

jjmcgo
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1937 Preakness entries and chart

Postby jjmcgo » Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:39 am

Over The Top finished sixth, beaten 11 lengths in War Admiral's Preakness on May 15, 1937. Here's the chart:
http://kdl.kyvl.org/cgi/t/text/pageview ... assterms=1
Jockey Jackie Westrope rode the 59-1 longshot. Over The Top's owner was Mrs. W. H. Furst. The trainer was B.B. Williams.
Over The Top won his next race, an allowance in Chicago. The chestnut colt by Man o' War-Cresta, by Whisk Broom II won at Aqueduct in June 1936 and won again in his seasonal debut on April 13, 1937 at Havre de Grace. Over The Top ran third to Man o' War 11 days later at HDG in a stakes.
http://kdl.kyvl.org/cgi/t/text/pageview ... 501%3A14.1


The footnote for Over The Top for the Preakess:
OVER THE TOP was kept under strong urging after getting into his
best stride but failed to enter contention