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tammysinnett
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Breeding advice
Hello my friend has the mare White O Morn.....how do you all feel about her being bred to Imperialism??? what do you think her baby would bring on the market if taken to a sale??? Do you think this would be a very good investment....or is there a Kentucky stallion out there that may benefit her more for the same or less breeding fee??? She did win the Debutante in Illinois and may be able to find a stallion that would be better for her and maybe a waiver for stud fee???? Trying to help a friend so if any of you out there have some ideas give it to me ps Rocking Trick I did mention your name to her
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Incentives Offered to Breed to Imperialism
Date Posted: 9/25/2006 8:14:42 AM
Last Updated: 9/25/2006 8:14:42 AM
Manuel Andrade, who owns and will stand Imperialism at Get Away Farm near Ocala, Fla, in 2007, announced two incentives for those breeding to the son of Langfuhr. He will stand for $5,000.
A complimentary season will be give to the first 20 signed breeding contracts to stakes-producing or graded stakes-winning mares. Also, $100,000 will be paid to the mare owner signing a 2007 contract for the first grade 1 stakes winner sired by Imperialism.
Imperialism was a three-time grade II winner who also ran third in the 2004 Kentucky Derby (gr. I).
Incentives Offered to Breed to Imperialism
Date Posted: 9/25/2006 8:14:42 AM
Last Updated: 9/25/2006 8:14:42 AM
Manuel Andrade, who owns and will stand Imperialism at Get Away Farm near Ocala, Fla, in 2007, announced two incentives for those breeding to the son of Langfuhr. He will stand for $5,000.
A complimentary season will be give to the first 20 signed breeding contracts to stakes-producing or graded stakes-winning mares. Also, $100,000 will be paid to the mare owner signing a 2007 contract for the first grade 1 stakes winner sired by Imperialism.
Imperialism was a three-time grade II winner who also ran third in the 2004 Kentucky Derby (gr. I).
Tammy, something to seriously consider is location. Imperialism might suit the mare if the mare was already in Florida and a Florida-bred was the desired result.
But I suspect the mare is in Illinois, and there may or may not be a good slush of cash available to pay broodmare board out of state... regardless, there is shipping to consider. Boarding a broodmare in KY or Florida can run $500-$800 a month. So before you try to analyze ALL the stallions at stud, it might be wise to concentrate your efforts on all the POSSIBLE stallions at stud. Perhaps you could select a radius that is possible for the mare owner to consider taking her mare to and from.
By the way, I love the mare for Rocking Trick, you could pm me with the mare owner's contact info if she is interested in making a deal. Thanks.
But I suspect the mare is in Illinois, and there may or may not be a good slush of cash available to pay broodmare board out of state... regardless, there is shipping to consider. Boarding a broodmare in KY or Florida can run $500-$800 a month. So before you try to analyze ALL the stallions at stud, it might be wise to concentrate your efforts on all the POSSIBLE stallions at stud. Perhaps you could select a radius that is possible for the mare owner to consider taking her mare to and from.
By the way, I love the mare for Rocking Trick, you could pm me with the mare owner's contact info if she is interested in making a deal. Thanks.
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....
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tammysinnett
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gosh you guys I knew when I came to you you would have great guidance....you are so right about the boarding and travel expenses being something to include...those were all things that we were exploring the cost of...so what would you recommend if she wanted to try to breed for a big sale?? investment wise if it was your mare and this was the first time you had ever taken a foal to a sale...I include this info because I beleive it must take lots of experience to get a good dollar out of a foal at a sale??? What would you do stay close to home? and spend more on the breeding or go to Kentucky so she is Kentucky bred and spend more on travel and board?? Now this is all hypothetical because she really hadn't look to breed her again until they funded some of their younger ones in training etc. I was the one that brought up the idea about Imperialism....I really owe this friend allot she was the one that got me hooked....I shared the info about what you all put on the board....the more opinions the better we learn right??? thankyou again everyone someday I am going to have that big deal and I will finally get to say I know these darn TB's. 
I don't know that this mare, White O Morn, is the mare your friend would need in order to breed for a "big sale." While she did win a stakes and was a good durable racehorse with nice earnings, she lacks the deeper pedigree that typically is found on the catalog pages of the "big sale" horses. Unfortunately, Seattle Morn has not made an impact as a broodmare sire, and White O Morn is the best racehorse her family has produced for quite some time.
She is, however, certainly worth breeding all things considered; just not with only the "cash is king" motive. As a breed to race mare she has a LOT going for her.. and with a smaller stud fee, she could get a GOOD sale/race horse. A horse that I believe would suit her particularly well is Sky Classic, in KY at Pin Oak for $12,500.
With this stud fee range, it would be reasonable to consider either selling or racing the foal.. and if desired your friend could always consider submitting the mare and requesting a foal share or similar.
She is, however, certainly worth breeding all things considered; just not with only the "cash is king" motive. As a breed to race mare she has a LOT going for her.. and with a smaller stud fee, she could get a GOOD sale/race horse. A horse that I believe would suit her particularly well is Sky Classic, in KY at Pin Oak for $12,500.
With this stud fee range, it would be reasonable to consider either selling or racing the foal.. and if desired your friend could always consider submitting the mare and requesting a foal share or similar.
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....