Breeding two long-backed horses

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Breeding two long-backed horses

Postby Toccet02 » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:04 pm

Let's say pedigrees line up nicely, racing histories and earnings are similar, but damn if both aren't pretty long-backed.
Disastrous? Good? Nobody knows?
I'm NOT a Breeder...just trying to learn via hypothetical situations.
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Postby Timber » Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:21 am

Tried it once, 14 years ago. Colt won two stakes.

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Postby Toccet02 » Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:49 am

And did he look like a Daschsund? 8)
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Postby Diane » Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:52 am

Take a look at Lit de Justice, good racehorse and he's a moderately successful regional sire. I wonder what the dams of his winners look like.
What would a long backed horse do for a 2nd career? Carriage?

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Postby freshman » Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:42 pm

Some folks say that long-backed horses make good hunters and jumpers. Apparently the horse is able to round its back more over the jumps, making the effort smooth and pretty. I guess I'd buy that as long as it isn't applied to a horse with a freakishly long, weak back. Probably not so good for dressage, since the long back might make collection more difficult.

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Postby pfrsue » Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:34 pm

Michael Matz used to compete an Oldenburg stallion named Heisman who was very long backed, and I used to groom a Trakehner (Zauberklang) who was also quite long. He was very scopey over fences, but his dressage suffered as far as the piaffe went, because there was just too much of him to really collect himself comfortably.

In any case, as far as I know, breeding a long backed stallion to a long backed mare won't combine to give you a freakish equine slinky - but they sure won't give you a close coupled foal either.

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Postby Timber » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:16 pm

Toccet02---"And did he look like a dachshund?"

Somewhat. More when he was running than standing, he flattened out with a long stride and it made him look like a short-legged doxie. He drew some backstretch chuckles until they found they couldn't pass him.

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Postby skeenan » Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:54 pm

I don't have any personal experience, but if it were my mare and my decision, I wouldn't take the chance of getting a foal with a compounded fault. The back is the framework to which everything else is attached.

Not saying the horse couldn't be successful, I just put conformation above a perfect pedigree match...

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Postby Toccet02 » Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:19 am

Well one thing I've learned from my game of hypo mating is that it is DAMN hard to find a good match with all factors considered.
I always wondered how one narrows it down
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Postby xfactor fan » Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:56 am

You might want to research a genetic pricipal call "regress to the mean" and see if it might apply to your case.

Sort of a quick description is that if you have two tall parents, the offspring are likely to be tall, but not as tall as the parent generation. They will be closer to the average height of the general population.

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Postby RavenSuesMom1 » Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:53 pm

longer backs do seem to make decent hunter jumpers
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