mating advice for Big Promise

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chicago78
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mating advice for Big Promise

Postby chicago78 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:17 pm

We're going to retire a mare called Big Promise at the end of the year. Does anybody have any ideas? We'd like to keep her at $30,000 or under, and breed her either in Kentucky or Florida. She's a stakes winner, a pretty well made filly, if a bit on the small side. Thanks for any help.

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Postby zinn21 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:19 pm

I like City Zip for your mare. He should provide some speed for the resulting foal. The mating returns City Zip's dam to Relaunch as well as 3x4 inbreeding to Blushing Groom.

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Big Promise

Postby hpkingjr » Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:07 am

What a nice mare. When I checked the goldmine for stakes winners of Rahy as the damsire, there were 11 listed. Eight of the eleven had Northern Dancer in the pedigree, five had Mr. Prospector, (some had both).

I would look at Dixieland Band, Street Cry, and Bluegrass Cat in the 50K range,

Medaglia D'Oro, Songandaprayer, and tried and true Theatrical in the 40 to 50K range.

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Postby chicago78 » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:03 am

Thanks, guys. We hope she turns into a nice producer. I'm not normally a Storm Cat person, but it definitely works great with Rahy mares. Giant's Causeway and After Market come immediately to mind. Obviously they are out of top class race mares, but still. I like the Bluegrass Cat idea, but would probably rather do it with Sky Mesa. He's A.P. Indy over Storm Cat, so we'd get the same benefits there, and at a less expensive price. Also, I think he's going to make a sire for sure. Any other ideas? thanks

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Postby kimberley mine » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:58 pm

Hi there,

I'm assuming since you mentioned Bluegrass Cat and Sky Mesa that you don't mind young stallions. Here's my free advice (worth exactly what you paid for it :lol: ) and hope it gives you some good ideas.

Good Reward and Pure Prize: full brothers, one with crops to race and one without. Pure Prize toes in noticeably. I don't know if Good Reward has that problem...if you like them both you might make the physical matchup be the deciding factor here. Both were very good racehorses and have a lot to offer Big Promise, and both are in the $12,000-$15,000 range.

Artie Schiller: I like how he would bring in Sadlers Wells and the linebreeding to Cap and Bells. He was a good, solid, honest horse with consistent talent. At $15,000 he strikes me as a very good deal.

Royal Academy: Rahy LOVES Nijinsky (and the love affair is mutual). Proven class on a budget, and if Finsceal Beo is any indication he will be a very interesting broodmare sire. He is somewhat on the large and coarse side, so he may give the size to your mare that she lacks.

Broken Vow: Nice young sire who is really moving along. Would linebreed to Blushing Groom via Wedding Picture and Rahy...but has size and speed to offer to a foal. I think he is very well priced and gets a nice horse, and he doesn't seem to have a lot of the liabilities (straight shoulder, over at the knee) that so many Unbridleds seem to have. $25,000. Of all the suggestions I've put up here, I like him the best but can't quite figure out why. I'm sure it will come to me later.

For a more proven son of Storm Cat, Stormy Atlantic. He is at the upper level of your budget, but they will run and they will sell.

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Postby griff » Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:47 am

If you mare likes both Mr. O and ND take a look at Not For Love who stands in MD for $25k. His numbers are very competive with the to top KY srallions,,.
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