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thoughts on my stallion picks

Postby mightyhijames » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:13 pm

looking to breed my mare, smart gossip, to maryland/pa stallion. she didn't catch last year so is open. here's my list to date, in no particular order:

toccet
wiseman's ferry
dance with ravens
fairbanks

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Postby Joltman » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:51 pm

Might take a look at Toccet, if you wanted to add to both the ND and MP influences. He's a A true nick for Smart Gossip. Earnings numbers are a tad below average, but improving, probably as his get gets older.

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Postby mightyhijames » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:29 am

anybody else? its about time to make a decision. thanks.

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Postby Fireslam » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:44 am

Do you have any better choices?

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Postby dublino » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:21 pm

Have you thought of Alex's Pal?

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Postby mightyhijames » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:23 pm

Fireslam wrote:Do you have any better choices?


no, do you? if so, i'd like to hear them. thanks.

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Postby Fireslam » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:30 pm

I just wondered if theres a particular reason on those. Seems theres quite a list of stallions in MD and PA that would be better choices, as in more proven solid horses. Thought maybe you have freebies to them, thats why you picked them.

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Postby mightyhijames » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:37 pm

nope, no freebies. just what i came up w/based on my very limited knowledge of trying to put together a successful breeding within my budget. looking for suggestions and/or input. thanks.

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Postby Fireslam » Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:19 pm

I can see Fairbanks for an unproven horse. What about Lion Hearted? Seems like awfully good value for that price. Lots of good runners.

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Postby Joltman » Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:36 pm

one of the better runners in the more recent pedigree was the half to Suzy by Private Account. So maybe something from that sire line, which unfortunately has fallen on some hard times.

this guy is in Md

http://marylandthoroughbred.com/pdf/LaReinesTerms.pdf

SW of $800k

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Postby KBEquine » Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:08 pm

I like Joltman's reasoning. But of your original choices, Dance With Ravens gets you 3 x 3 to Classy N Smart via a son (Smart Strike) & a daughter (Dance Smartly, Canadian HOY).

While the Smart Strike/Dance With Ravens sire line nick is only so-so, I'd at least consider this if they area physical match, based on the R factor.

And as a Plan B, I'm a Wiseman's Ferry fan - good-looking horse, when you see him in person. Not much I'd fault, conformationally. His AEI is decent. BUT if you're looking for something that'll do well at auction, you're going to have to look further afield than ANY of these sires.

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Postby mightyhijames » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:19 pm

any suggestions for this mare in the $10-$12K range, inside/outside of the mid-atlantic? i may have a partner lined up to share expenses.

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Postby kimberley mine » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:48 am

mightyhijames wrote:any suggestions for this mare in the $10-$12K range, inside/outside of the mid-atlantic? i may have a partner lined up to share expenses.


BELONG TO ME BELONG TO ME BELONG TO ME

Classy'n'Smart's kids like them some Danzig, it's a reverse cross of three stakes winners (Lookin at Lucky, Papa Clem, Striking Tomisue), and he's an awful lot of horse for the price.

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Postby mightyhijames » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:42 pm

kimberley mine wrote:
mightyhijames wrote:any suggestions for this mare in the $10-$12K range, inside/outside of the mid-atlantic? i may have a partner lined up to share expenses.


BELONG TO ME BELONG TO ME BELONG TO ME

Classy'n'Smart's kids like them some Danzig, it's a reverse cross of three stakes winners (Lookin at Lucky, Papa Cllem, Striking Tomisue), and he's an awful lot of horse for the price.


i can see the reverse cross you pointed out, does that work?

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Postby Joltman » Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:59 pm

if you run the freebie TrueNick on Belong to me, you get a D. Lots of inbreeding in the 5th gen. If that's what you're looking for fine.

On the buying selling forum Blue Feather is selling a NG season to Patriot Act (NY). Pretty much an Outcross for this mare. Price is right - $600. Adv fee is $4000. No clue as to how he matches up with the mare type wise.

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