Good old mare, last breeding and I'm stumped

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FiftyYearsPlus
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Good old mare, last breeding and I'm stumped

Postby FiftyYearsPlus » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:09 pm

I have an old mare who been very productive named Kathy B. I acquired her years ago because her damside directly produced Bed O'Roses and Challedon and she's a granddaugher of Raise A Native.
Here's her record: 1) MSW colt by American Chance who ran an 83 Beyer in his first start and had a short career due to a chip; 2)Grass allowance filly by Pine Bluff who won $87K; 3) Grass/dirt allowance sprinting filly by Dehere who's won $67K with an impaired airway; 4) Full sister to the preceding who is very promising.
I would appreciate any thoughts that you could throw my way.

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Postby kimberley mine » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:32 am

Option 1--Holy Bull, to pick up on all the Mahmoud.

Option 2--Albert the Great or his sons Nobiz Like Shobiz or Albertus Maximus. I like Nobiz the best since he is tail-female to Recess AND linebred to her, which your mare has through her sire. Both Nobiz and AM bring in extra Mahmoud via ND and Halo.

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Postby zinn21 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:21 am

Subject to a good physical match, I think Leroidesanimaux is a fantastic stallion. I like Langfuhr too..
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Postby Jeff » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:33 am

I like Alphabet Soup, re-unite the Gray Sovereign from which he and Kathy B both get their gray color and I think sparks could fly, they are the same genes.


Alphabet Soup does ok with Raise A Native line too, and he won't be around much longer at his age.

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Postby KBEquine » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:29 pm

kimberley mine wrote:Option 2--Albert the Great or his sons Nobiz Like Shobiz or Albertus Maximus. I like Nobiz the best since he is tail-female to Recess AND linebred to her, which your mare has through her sire. Both Nobiz and AM bring in extra Mahmoud via ND and Halo.


I was thinking Badge of Silver for the Recess dam-line

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Postby ct2346 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:02 pm

Not sure exactly where you're located but I find Cetewayo interesting on paper for this mare.

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Postby Tappiano » Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:03 pm

Jeff wrote:I like Alphabet Soup, re-unite the Gray Sovereign from which he and Kathy B both get their gray color and I think sparks could fly, they are the same genes.


Alphabet Soup does ok with Raise A Native line too, and he won't be around much longer at his age.


Neither will Holly Bull. He's showing his age.

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Postby kimberley mine » Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:17 pm

ct2346 wrote:Not sure exactly where you're located but I find Cetewayo interesting on paper for this mare.


Yeah, I thought about that--also thought about Temple City. Dynaformer has His Majesty on the dam line, plus this mare has a line to Bois Roussel, which has a STRONG affinity for Roberto.

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Thanks for your ideas

Postby FiftyYearsPlus » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:54 pm

You've given me some interesting ideas to work with.
Horses 1) and 3) are exceptionally gifted. I was offered $150K for the first by a top West Coast trainer after his first start, and the second ran a 21 flat, 56 flat at Monmouth last year on a "good" turf course and her saddle slipped.
I keep thinking that the common denominator is Bold Ruler, since the first's sire is out of a Seattle Slew-Boldnesian-Bold Ruler mare, and the second's sire is out of a Secretariat-Bold Ruler mare.
Other than Nashua deep in her pedigree, she is free of any other Nearco influences.
Thank you again for your thoughts.

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Postby Joltman » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:21 pm

in general terms - I would look at somethiing with a couple of shots of Mr. P. I don't think that your mare has had anything with this world beater in the sire line? Give her a shot with the best.

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