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Mating advice on a new Mare
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:40 pm
by wgc517
Looking to get some mating advice on a new mare. Her name is Tapit Precious. Looking to go to KY or Mid-Atlantic and looking in the 15K or below range. Breeding for commercial appeal. She is related to Tapitsfly (3/4).
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:30 am
by madelyn
I Really Like this mare, pedigree-wise, with Big Brown. Once in a while it also happens that what screams at me in a particular cross also rates an A++ nick rating, which this cross does.. he's in KY and in your price range.
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:37 am
by Cree
After seeing Storming Inti win this weekend, I was going to say Stormy Atlantic, but he's $30,000. I like some sort of Storm Cat over the Pulpit.
Where's Pure Prize (dead?)
Forestry
Freud (he's in NY)
Creative Cause
First Samurai
Giant Oak
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:12 am
by dublino
You'd be better of sending the mare to the slaughter house than mating to Big Brown.
If this mare is like Tapitsfly and she was a grass horse, why not ARTIE SCHILLER.
FIRST DEFENCE gets winners on every surface.
Any even cheaper again FLOWER ALLEY sires Derby winners.
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:37 am
by wgc517
I am not a big fan of Big Brown although I appreciate the suggestion.
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:19 am
by madelyn
The Virginia season auction is tomorrow and there may be something there you would like.
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:34 am
by wgc517
I thought that started in February.
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:51 am
by madelyn
oops quite right - it was NJ and I think it ended yesterday.
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:41 pm
by wgc517
Cree I kind of like First Samurai also. What are your thoughts on Justin Phillip? Brings in more Fappiano.
also like these.
Artie Schiller
Data Link
The Factor
Dublino can you rule any of these out?
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:14 pm
by LB
wgc517 wrote:Cree I kind of like First Samurai also. What are your thoughts on Justin Phillip? Brings in more Fappiano.
also like these.
Artie Schiller
Data Link
The Factor
Dublino can you rule any of these out?
According to this article in the BloodHorse, The Factor's book is closed:
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... is-a-filly
A couple others on your list are also currently tight, so before you spend too much time making a decision you might want to call around to see what's available.
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:35 pm
by ct2346
I second Cree's aim at a Storm Cat line.
I believe there is a Pulpit - Storm Cat affinity forming.
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:54 pm
by wgc517
What about Tale of Ekati.
Storm Cat line and also brings in the Rasmussen Factor to Narrate who is the grand dam of both Tale of the cat and Pulpit. Its got to help to bring her back in regardless of whether you believe in the RF or not.
thoughts?
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:37 am
by ct2346
ToE is interesting. His yearlings that I've seen have been fairly good. If you like a LOT of Mr. P. you've achieved it.
Since you are considering as of yet unproven sires from the SC line, I would look at Majesticperfection. Fewer Nijinsky's, fewer Mr P's, lower stud fee and his yearlings have been very good - on looks and on price. His stud fee has actually gone up pre-first crop, and Airdrie knows how to make stallions.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:57 am
by dublino
wgc517 wrote:Cree I kind of like First Samurai also. What are your thoughts on Justin Phillip? Brings in more Fappiano.
also like these.
Artie Schiller
Data Link
The Factor
Dublino can you rule any of these out?
You have an unraced mare The Factor was a smallish scrawny type of horse and an unproven stallion - total no go.
Data Link is unproven but was a G1 winning miler as a 4yr old - will he sire early types?
Artie Schiller proven sire, proven cross and getting 2 yr old winners - a no brainer for an unraced maiden mare like yours.
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:26 am
by wgc517
Yes after reading CT2346 post I realized I need to go to something proven.
I do like Artie Schiller but want to get a few more choices to work with. Thoughts on First Samurai?