Still researching

[pam]

I'm using these mare's names only to see what your opinions are as to the possibilities, whether they're still for sale or not is not the point.
I know I keep writing you all, and I'm sorry if I seem a nuisance, but I'm really trying to learn breeding.
I've got L'ange Gabriel.
I'm using Exclusive Pass, Polish Socialite, Capable Nila as my "test" mares.
Since Gabe's mom has more of family #1. I have been looking at mares who have more of that family. ("Return to the stallion the best blood of his dam") I noticed Spend a Buck winners had La Troienne at atleast 5%. I find it hard to come up with that high a percentage when looking at hypo-mating, other than Polish Socialite. I think it came up with atleast 4%. Capable Nila, only has La Troienne girls, no boys. But she has alot of #1 family mares, which doesn't that count for something?
The last mare I found interesting was Exclusive Pass, who has Bold Ruler boy on top of Bold Ruler boy, no girls. So, when I hypo-mate Gabe (Bold Ruler boy) there's only boys no girls. I notice that the computer gives Princequillo and then the next would be Blenheim.
Like I started, I'm curious as to what you think.
I also noticed Louis's discussion on Phalaris inbreeding. Am I wrong to figure you have to have both boy and girl (allelle) in order for it to be a consideration?
Just curious. At this point, I think it's a whole lot easier to train than to breed for the best.

[louis finochio]

To Pam: When you research the pedigree's of cornerstone sires, as Raise a Native, Bold Ruler, Native Dancer, and Northern Dancer you will notice the male line was the (Phalaris) sire line and the outcross was made on the dams side of their pedigree.

You can learn from these types of matings, as the male sire line of (Phalaris) is the most dominant and influential in the world today.

The different sire lines that were used for an outcross brought soundness and hybrid vigor into those cornerstone sires offspring.

When you plan your matings use these examples that worked for those stallions, by using a balance of each sire lines that will produce soundness and hybrid vigor in your matings.

[louis finochio]

Learn to read pedigrees Pam. As you will find certain breeding patterns that are productive of each superior runner.

Was the cross made on the sire side of the mating or the dams side.

Is the Tb a product of line-breeding or is it an outcross, without duplication of any ancestors.

Look for soundness in the sire and dams side by how many starts those individuals made.

If your breeding in hope of a filly to add to your broodmare band, check the stallions BMS AEI to see if the stallion AEI is 1.80 or above.

If your breeding in hope of getting a colt, make sure the stallion is a sire of sires, as your colt will have a chance of making it as a stallion after his racing days are over.

You will learn as you read those pedigrees, as they are the roots to all TB.
Good Luck and breed a champion. Yours in Sport Louis.

[pam]

You know, one of my favorite lines from t.v. is from Kirstie Alley and Cheers..."I'm too stupid to live!" I'm positive you're all seeing much more than I do. I feel I'm still looking at the forest, and not the individual trees.
I see alot of close crosses on either side depending on the horse I'm looking at. I truly would like to get away from Native Dancer, Phalaris, Mr. P. I realize by saying that, I may start a whole other discussion
What I'm trying to do is find a match worth investing in.
What I do notice is, often a great mare owner thinks long and hard about who to breed to since they won't see the return on their investment for a long while. I feel I'm in the same boat, because I'm only going to get one mare to keep, not try out. Good luck, right
Hey, but I'm having fun learning.
Thanks for writing.

[louis finochio]

Start with a quality mare that comes from a family that has produced an abundance of superior runners. The family should have many lifetime starts for soundness.

I like your way of thinking about staying away from Mr. P. as their are many other families that have produced superior runners that are sounder than the Mr. P lineage.

By starting with one mare is a wise move, as you can manage one better than a dozen, and its easier on your pocket book.

Good Luck and breed a superior runner.