new breeding farm in Tx standing son of awesome again

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new breeding farm in Tx standing son of awesome again

Postby Pitbull599 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:07 am

http://ironmeadowsstable.com/our-stallions.html

Please tell me what you guys think about this new farm do you think it's got potential. I also heard that the have a a son of awesome again out of a dynaformer mare named bug a boo Ben
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Postby madelyn » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:32 am

At first glance, historically in TB's booking fees have sent potential clients booking elsewhere. Hopefully they can fix all the spelling mistakes on the website. I don't know how John Franks will feel about being referred to as "glorifying". Sometimes, less is more and it would be best to leave adjectives out. The people you want to reach will very likely know exactly who John Franks is and they will have their own opinion of him. And if all that stallion has to offer is that he was owned by John Franks, maybe it would be best to leave that horse off altogether. Regarding the stallions, people really care most about pedigree, race record and conformation. Photos and more info is desperately needed...
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Postby Jane » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:13 am

I would run the other way. Anyone who lets that website go live with all those spelling mistakes is unprofessional at best. They claim they have the "expertise to make insurmountable tasks possible to overcome" yet they spell the word FILLY with a P and BREEDER is spelled Breader... as in the "glorifying breader John Franks!"

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Postby Pitbull599 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:30 pm

Yeah I know they have a lot of website issues I also know that their website is still under construction and they are not "official" yet my question was if their stallions are good or have potential of being a good breeding stud cause I want to breed a mare to this stallion
http://www.pedigreequery.com/bug+a+boo+ben[/i]
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Postby Pitbull599 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:31 pm

Yeah I know they have a lot of website issues I also know that their website is still under construction and they are not "official" yet my question was if their stallions are good or have potential of being a good breeding stud cause I want to breed a mare to this stallion
http://www.pedigreequery.com/bug+a+boo+ben
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Postby starlitlaughter » Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:02 pm

I would pass on the stallion IMO. He couldn't do better than a pair of third place finishes in maiden company in 29 starts...

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Postby zipperfoot » Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:30 pm

Website errors aside, I'm not impressed with any of their stallions. I think you could do way better elsewhere, especially with the upcoming service auctions.

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Postby Jane » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:02 pm

That stallion couldn't get out of his own way as a racehorse, even for free I wouldn't go near him. When you are getting your ass kicked in Maiden 5,000 claiming races after almost 30 attempts... this is one gene pool that I would not want any part of. There must be better stock available.

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Postby Jessi P » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:47 pm

If this is the stallion you are wanting to breed to - http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Result ... registry=T Can I ask WHY that stallion - what is it about that particular horse that makes you want to breed to him? Looking at his race record you could have probably bought this horse (the entire stallion, not just one breeding) for about $1,000. If you are breeding for sport or looks that's one thing, but I can't imagine anyone who would want to breed to a horse who only managed 2 thirds while racing in some of the cheapest races in the US (Mountaineer $5k maiden claimers). My point is - if you like some aspect of his pedigree you are far, far better off to invest your $ by choosing a similar stallion who at least won a race or had some talent as a racehorse.

As for the other stallions - upon quick inspection of race records Choir Leader ran 31 times with 3 wins earning $31k - vast majority of his races were cheap claimers. Pass. Grave Digger ran 4 times in decent company but never hit the board or even got close. Pass. Scarlet Storm ran 11 times in NY bred races, his best efforts being a third at 40-1 and another third at 20-1. Pass. My Tiger Man had a condition (NW2L) allowance win at Mountaineer as his best race - his 16 race career spanned 5 years with 2 wins and netted only $35k in earnings. Pass. Watch My Marquet does not come up on equibase - possibly spelled wrong? Windy Lou is the only horse I would consider as a stallion prospect based on race record - he is a stakes winner, and multiple stakes placed.

I have not researched the female families for this stallions at all - one of them could be a half to Zenyatta or Orb for all I know, but with that caveat the majority of these stallions have nothing to offer as a potential TB race stallion based on their race records. Experienced breeders who breed for race or sale will not consider a stallion with that sort of race record.
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Postby Shergar » Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:43 pm

I wouldn't touch any of those stallions with a ten foot pole.

They couldn't get a date here in my home state of Idaho!! And we are not picky up here.


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Postby Fireslam » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:07 pm

The more I think about this, and Im obviously thinking about this way too much, the more I think my original thought of that website being made up by a 10 year old might not be far off. Im thinking this whole breeding farm and mares wanting to be bred is a figment of some kids wild imagination.

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Postby da hossman » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:53 am

What an uncanny coincidence that the website and PitBull's various posts both have multiple spelling and grammatical errors....
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Postby Sylvie Hebert » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:07 pm

da Hossman you still believe in coincidences???
The sport and industry survive not only because of the champions that are remembered forever but also because of the losers that are so easy to forget...

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Postby da hossman » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:07 am

and Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny and that great tip I got from the cousin of the horseshoer for the trainer in the barn next to the trainer of the 35-1 shot in the last race at Beulah!
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Postby JimP » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:04 pm

I bet the farm on that damn horse da hossman because I got the
same solid tip!!!
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