Owen Tudor
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Sylvie Hebert
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what a race record!
Hi Jon,
The most recent stallion that had any impact out of the Owen Tudor branch of the Hyperion sire line (in North America) was TALC (1972 by Rock Talk - Heat Rash by Rash Prince) who became a very useful regional sire in the northeast.
Talc briefly commanded a fee of $25,000 after his horses showed a tendency for tenacity, durability and earning power. He was influential in establishing the New York breeding program because his runners amassed considerable earnings in the early days of the program. Breeders saw the value of foaling better bred horses in NY and the added competition eroded Talc's popularity. I believe he died in 1995 or 1996.
It's interesting to note that Talc, though a member of Hyperion sire line, descends from the same family 13-c that produced Mr. Prospector and Seattle Slew.
His sons Fini Cassette and Departing Cloud had foals that raced but I never saw many of them. Another son of his was gainfully employed as a teaser (forgot his name) at Lakland North Farm in New York and hopefully still is.
Louis, time moves faster as I get older. You’re absolutely right that Hyperion’s sire line was dominant but that was about 40 years ago.
Regards,
Pete
The most recent stallion that had any impact out of the Owen Tudor branch of the Hyperion sire line (in North America) was TALC (1972 by Rock Talk - Heat Rash by Rash Prince) who became a very useful regional sire in the northeast.
Talc briefly commanded a fee of $25,000 after his horses showed a tendency for tenacity, durability and earning power. He was influential in establishing the New York breeding program because his runners amassed considerable earnings in the early days of the program. Breeders saw the value of foaling better bred horses in NY and the added competition eroded Talc's popularity. I believe he died in 1995 or 1996.
It's interesting to note that Talc, though a member of Hyperion sire line, descends from the same family 13-c that produced Mr. Prospector and Seattle Slew.
His sons Fini Cassette and Departing Cloud had foals that raced but I never saw many of them. Another son of his was gainfully employed as a teaser (forgot his name) at Lakland North Farm in New York and hopefully still is.
Louis, time moves faster as I get older. You’re absolutely right that Hyperion’s sire line was dominant but that was about 40 years ago.
Regards,
Pete
Has a palomino jean that pop up some.
This stallion is DNA ... all foal can be MBNA inrolled.
Horses like their credit cards. - Four Forty Farms
This stallion is DNA ... all foal can be MBNA inrolled.
Horses like their credit cards. - Four Forty Farms
The line is surviving through Cadeaux Genereaux and his son Bahamian Bounty who produced Goodricke a Gr 1 winner last year. In fact Bahamian Bounty is a hot sire in Europe.
As for Talc even though he did well his sons never really hit the high spots. We had a son of his called Argyle Lake at stud in India, he was a decent sire but never really did great at the top level, due to bad luck and not much support. What he did get were very durable handicappers, who raced sound for many years. He might score as a broodmare sire as his daughters have started quite well, and he is a complete outcross to Northern Dancer, Mr P and Hail To Reason which are the dominant sirelines at use in India.
As for Talc even though he did well his sons never really hit the high spots. We had a son of his called Argyle Lake at stud in India, he was a decent sire but never really did great at the top level, due to bad luck and not much support. What he did get were very durable handicappers, who raced sound for many years. He might score as a broodmare sire as his daughters have started quite well, and he is a complete outcross to Northern Dancer, Mr P and Hail To Reason which are the dominant sirelines at use in India.
Hi Bonzer,
Nice to have your imput from India.
I saw Argyle Lake run many times. He was a higher class version of the horses that you described that he got.
Looking forward to hearing your impressions about the racing scene in your country.
Regards,
Pete
Nice to have your imput from India.
I saw Argyle Lake run many times. He was a higher class version of the horses that you described that he got.
Looking forward to hearing your impressions about the racing scene in your country.
Regards,
Pete
Has a palomino jean that pop up some.
This stallion is DNA ... all foal can be MBNA inrolled.
Horses like their credit cards. - Four Forty Farms
This stallion is DNA ... all foal can be MBNA inrolled.
Horses like their credit cards. - Four Forty Farms