Who knows if this precocious front-running speedster will become
one of Unbridled’s Song best son at stud. It's still too soon for stud duties
but would like to read your opinions on this one. Alas he just lost the 2013 Metropolitan Handicap for the shortest of noses but this horse is for real.
Would appreciate your opinions.
CROSS TRAFFIC (grey h 2009)http://www.pedigreequery.com/cross+traffic
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... tan-h-gr-1
http://www.equibase.com/static/chart/pd ... 3USA10.pdf
Unbridled's Song sons at stud
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Was he late in getting to the races because his owner's gave him time or was he late because he is unsound and it took this long to get him to the track. The answers will depend upon the type of campaign he has this year. If he races another five times this year that would say a lot but he has a trainer who does not believe in racing them very often.
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rudydee wrote:Does any one have any thoughts on Mission Impazible who is standing in New York?
21 starts 3 wins 8 seconds 2 thirds- retired sound and at 5 years of age
He is a good racehorse out of a good running female family. His half-brother was a solid racehorse stallion before being exported to (I think) Korea. He's very similarly bred to the Kentucky stallion Old Fashioned. That Hold Your Peace/Meadowlake line has hooked in well with Storm Cat so IMO he matches well with all the Freud mares they will have up there.
On the downside, none of the Unbridled's Song sons at stud have been anywhere close to their sire in terms of breeding stallions. Rockport Harbor, Buddha, Half Ours, and Songandaprayer all got quite a lot of support early on, got great figures at the sales, and their offspring were generally sprinting claimers. After starts at big Kentucky farms, they are now in Pennsylvania, Argentina, and Louisiana respectively. Domestic Dispute got a LOT of support in Maryland but was likewise exiled to Indiana after his foals didn't run. First Defence has Juddmonte behind him and, like the others, he has one or two good horses and a bunch of claimers.
With that in mind I suppose whether or not to use him depends on what you are trying to do. If you are looking to produce a solid racehorse, or a good stallion to improve a mare, he's a risky prospect based on the history of his paternal half-siblings. If you want to breed a good-looking yearling or 2yo in training for the sales, that might come out better.
Jessi P wrote:I would love to hear more comments and opinions on Even The Score. We just got a cute 3 yo filly (gray, of course!) by ETS and this is my first experience with his offspring.
EVEN THE SCORE (grey/ro H 1998) http://www.pedigreequery.com/even+the+score
Even The Score is one of the best horses coming from Unbridled's Song in terms of career starts and durability; not to mention his beautiful pedigree. That sole point is sufficient merit for us to keep an eye on his stud career. But I haven't read any recent news on his latest progeny or career and I am wondering. Would really like to know.
Jessi P, can you share more on the physical of your grey [
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The two that I am watching are Graydar and, as mentioned earlier, Cross Traffic. Both are brilliantly fast, and their damsides suggest to me that they could project that speed if properly mated.
Frankly too, as a trainer, I don't put too much stock in outside assessments of a horse's soundness. The demise of the integrated systems like Calumet has introduced a process where a young horse passes through many hands in their career, some capable and properly motivated, and some not.
Frankly too, as a trainer, I don't put too much stock in outside assessments of a horse's soundness. The demise of the integrated systems like Calumet has introduced a process where a young horse passes through many hands in their career, some capable and properly motivated, and some not.
The talented ones will give you an early hint.
RandomThoughts wrote:The two that I am watching are Graydar and, as mentioned earlier, Cross Traffic. Both are brilliantly fast, and their damsides suggest to me that they could project that speed if properly mated.
Frankly too, as a trainer, I don't put too much stock in outside assessments of a horse's soundness. The demise of the integrated systems like Calumet has introduced a process where a young horse passes through many hands in their career, some capable and properly motivated, and some not.
Very impressive second place finish
for CROSS TRAFFIC (grey h 2009) http://www.pedigreequery.com/cross+traffic
Cree wrote:Graydar appears to be a fragile sort:
http://inthemoneypost.com/graydar-back- ... -saratoga/
I'm curious, would he appear less fragile to you if he was a less accomplished horse by a cheaper stallion so his owners didn't bother to pay to remove the chip but just dropped him down in class and let him continue to run at a cheaper level? Owners are always being criticized for not doing the best for their horses. But then when they do, the horse is criticized for being fragile.
LB,
Nowhere in my post did I blame the stallion or owners for anything. I was stating my own observation. The horse didn't run until he was 3, probably a good idea. As he has shown he is brilliantly fast, I wonder if there had been some sort of issue with him physically that prevented him from racing at 2.
He's 5 now with 5 starts to his name. His races have all been a little bit spread out, except for his 2 brilliant wins this year in February and March. He's now come back from having chips removed.
He would appear IN MY EYES to be a fragile sort.
On a side note, I actually like Unbridled's Song, Unbridled, and the Fappiano line. I don't even know who owns Graydar.
Nowhere in my post did I blame the stallion or owners for anything. I was stating my own observation. The horse didn't run until he was 3, probably a good idea. As he has shown he is brilliantly fast, I wonder if there had been some sort of issue with him physically that prevented him from racing at 2.
He's 5 now with 5 starts to his name. His races have all been a little bit spread out, except for his 2 brilliant wins this year in February and March. He's now come back from having chips removed.
He would appear IN MY EYES to be a fragile sort.
On a side note, I actually like Unbridled's Song, Unbridled, and the Fappiano line. I don't even know who owns Graydar.