hi guys
The 4 1/2 furlong MSW first race today (May 16, 2009) at Calder was an attention getter...at least to my way of thinking.
The winner Rate Shock (by Indian Ocean) won VERY EASILY while drawing off to win by 8+ lengths...in hand.
The results apparently shocked few, as the brilliant filly was sent off at 1-5...and WOW did she handle herself like a mature, quality, professional racefilly. WOW...double WOW!!!
From my perspective...she looks and acts like she could be VERY special.
Respectfully
Rate Shock...by Indian Ocean...WOW
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hi guys
Watched it.
Rate Shock looked like she was going easily, and nicely placed approaching the far turn. She loomed large coming around the turn and appeared poised to make a big move coming out of the turn for home. Problem was (at least based on what I saw) she NEVER changed her lead coming out of the turn or down the stretch. FACT is she raced through the whole turn and down the stretch on her left lead...which can absolutely, positively take a toll. She didn't lug in or drift, or elevate her head as if searching for air...all of which leads me to believe she likely faded as a result of NOT changing her lead.
Seems to me (based on what I saw anyway) it was likely more a being green thing than a physical problem/issue. Oh well...it's the trainer's job to resolve it...and hopefully for Team Rate Shock it will be.
The filly appears (to me anyway) to have too much raw talent to cavalierly dismiss her...and (based on what I've seen of her thus far anyway) I get a strong sense the best is yet to come.
Respectfully
Watched it.
Rate Shock looked like she was going easily, and nicely placed approaching the far turn. She loomed large coming around the turn and appeared poised to make a big move coming out of the turn for home. Problem was (at least based on what I saw) she NEVER changed her lead coming out of the turn or down the stretch. FACT is she raced through the whole turn and down the stretch on her left lead...which can absolutely, positively take a toll. She didn't lug in or drift, or elevate her head as if searching for air...all of which leads me to believe she likely faded as a result of NOT changing her lead.
Seems to me (based on what I saw anyway) it was likely more a being green thing than a physical problem/issue. Oh well...it's the trainer's job to resolve it...and hopefully for Team Rate Shock it will be.
The filly appears (to me anyway) to have too much raw talent to cavalierly dismiss her...and (based on what I've seen of her thus far anyway) I get a strong sense the best is yet to come.
Respectfully
hi Fireslam
For what it's worth...I too have seen horses win on their left lead...but I cannot recall the last time I saw an allowance race or better (including a 2yo, 5 furlong allowance race or better) where a horse raced around the turn on its left lead and continued down the stretch and under the wire on its left lead...NEVER changing from its left lead (from the far turn to the wire) even for a moment...and won.
Many things can/do come into play and/or unfold when the gate opens...being good enough (your words) is but one.
As I expressed previously...Problem was (at least based on what I saw) (Rate Shock) NEVER changed her lead coming out of the turn or down the stretch. FACT is she raced through the whole turn and down the stretch on her left lead...which can absolutely, positively take a toll. She didn't lug in or drift, or elevate her head as if searching for air...all of which leads me to believe she likely faded as a result of NOT changing her lead.
If you've seen dozens and dozens (your words) race exactly as I described, but they won...maybe you'll link a dozen or so of those race replays for viewing. Then what came into play/unfolded etc in those races can be discussed.
Respectfully
Fireslam wrote: Ive seen dozens and dozens of horses win races on their left lead.
For what it's worth...I too have seen horses win on their left lead...but I cannot recall the last time I saw an allowance race or better (including a 2yo, 5 furlong allowance race or better) where a horse raced around the turn on its left lead and continued down the stretch and under the wire on its left lead...NEVER changing from its left lead (from the far turn to the wire) even for a moment...and won.
Fireslam wrote:If they're good enough, they can do it.
Many things can/do come into play and/or unfold when the gate opens...being good enough (your words) is but one.
Fireslam wrote:Ive seen 2 year olds this year winning races on their left lead. If they are good enough, they can do it. If they arent, it makes for a good excuse.
As I expressed previously...Problem was (at least based on what I saw) (Rate Shock) NEVER changed her lead coming out of the turn or down the stretch. FACT is she raced through the whole turn and down the stretch on her left lead...which can absolutely, positively take a toll. She didn't lug in or drift, or elevate her head as if searching for air...all of which leads me to believe she likely faded as a result of NOT changing her lead.
If you've seen dozens and dozens (your words) race exactly as I described, but they won...maybe you'll link a dozen or so of those race replays for viewing. Then what came into play/unfolded etc in those races can be discussed.
Respectfully
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Staying on their left lead
A few years ago, I ran a homebred colt at Calder who won with an 83 Beyer in his first start and who stayed on his left lead. After the race, I asked the trainer to X-Ray his knees. He did and the results were negative. In the interim, I was offered six figures for this colt, which I declined.
In his second start, he ran third after being sandwiched coming out of the gate, and again he stayed on his left lead. I moved him to a different trainer in another region and he arrived lame. After persisting with the investigation, I finally had him examined at New Bolton they found a large chip in his left knee. Unfortunately, by that time the horse had sustained significant damage.
Therefore, my advice would be if it doesn't look right, keep asking questions until an issue like this is satisfactorily explained.
In his second start, he ran third after being sandwiched coming out of the gate, and again he stayed on his left lead. I moved him to a different trainer in another region and he arrived lame. After persisting with the investigation, I finally had him examined at New Bolton they found a large chip in his left knee. Unfortunately, by that time the horse had sustained significant damage.
Therefore, my advice would be if it doesn't look right, keep asking questions until an issue like this is satisfactorily explained.
The talented ones will give you an early hint.
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