TEAMGEIST: http://www.pedigreequery.com/teamgeist
Great to see that she is coming from the good sprinter GOOD TIME, a son of the beautiful imported-in-uterus JERRY HONOR. JERRY HONOR's phenotype looked all white with a distinctive light gray mane and tail.
Name most improbable stallion y/can find in a 21st cent. ped
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A San Souci line sire and a Wild Dayrell sire
I was researching how many Touchstone sires are still around. I knew Grey Dawn's line that is almost extinct except Acatenango; the Hyperion line that is faded and the Plaudit line that has the Holy Bull branch and only Include from the Broad Brush branch.
But I discovered that there is at least one sire from the line through Heaume/Le Roi Soleil/Sans Souci/ La Farina/Bubbles/Ocarina/Lauso/Precipice Wood/Abergwiffy/Devils Jump.
This colt is Coswarth Lucky Devil (2005) Devils Jump-Lady Mulberry Hill, by Hill Farmer.
When I researched his family, I saw his fourth dam, Ruby Portree, (1955) whose had the sire Union Jack and who had the dame Ruby Pearl.
But there was no further information. I think I know who they are.
Union Jack (GB) 1934, H, by Singapore-Pin Curl, by Junior.
Ruby Pearl (GB) 1940, M, by Invershin-Monksgrange Lady, by Tonton (FR)
I typed in the pedigree and found Union Jack and Ruby Pearl are correct.
Do you know if there any other Sans Souci line stallions?
But I discovered that there is at least one sire from the line through Heaume/Le Roi Soleil/Sans Souci/ La Farina/Bubbles/Ocarina/Lauso/Precipice Wood/Abergwiffy/Devils Jump.
This colt is Coswarth Lucky Devil (2005) Devils Jump-Lady Mulberry Hill, by Hill Farmer.
When I researched his family, I saw his fourth dam, Ruby Portree, (1955) whose had the sire Union Jack and who had the dame Ruby Pearl.
But there was no further information. I think I know who they are.
Union Jack (GB) 1934, H, by Singapore-Pin Curl, by Junior.
Ruby Pearl (GB) 1940, M, by Invershin-Monksgrange Lady, by Tonton (FR)
I typed in the pedigree and found Union Jack and Ruby Pearl are correct.
Do you know if there any other Sans Souci line stallions?
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Venusian wrote:I don't know if this one has already been posted, but the brilliant filly Attraction, who won the 2004 Irish 1000 Guineas and Sun Chariot stakes, both G1s, has the obscure stallions Young Turnabout, Kandytuft and Zollas in the first 3 generations of her pedigree on the dam's side.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/attraction6
FYI, that is not the correct Attraction as she is out of a Pursuit of Love daughter. This is the Attraction that won the Guineas double http://www.pedigreequery.com/attraction9
These 2007 horses will be running today in the Clasico del Caribe. Some are carrying atypical pedigrees or forgotten bloodlines. Enjoy!
Totymas (Pan)
Golden Boy (Dom)
Tato Zeta (Ven)
Crunch Time (Mex)
El Inspirado (PR)
Don Juan Tenorio (Ven)
Voy Porque Voy (Pan)
Cristalino (Dom)
Water Jet (Ven)
Thunder Al (PR)
Mark My Word (Jam)
Hector Omar (Pan)
El Callado (PR)
Enrique Victoriano (Mex)
Totymas (Pan)
Golden Boy (Dom)
Tato Zeta (Ven)
Crunch Time (Mex)
El Inspirado (PR)
Don Juan Tenorio (Ven)
Voy Porque Voy (Pan)
Cristalino (Dom)
Water Jet (Ven)
Thunder Al (PR)
Mark My Word (Jam)
Hector Omar (Pan)
El Callado (PR)
Enrique Victoriano (Mex)
Pan (FR) (1947)
Can be seen within the pedigree of TAKE THE POINTS
http://www.pedigreequery.com/take+the+points2
Can be seen within the pedigree of TAKE THE POINTS
http://www.pedigreequery.com/take+the+points2
Recent Santa Anita track record setter, the gray colt, THE FACTOR
http://www.pedigreequery.com/the+factor2
is carrying as his third dam, RAIN SHOWER.
RAIN SHOWER's pedigree is carrying many great sires you don't
came across very often. Just take a look:
RAIN SHOWER http://www.pedigreequery.com/rain+shower
http://www.pedigreequery.com/the+factor2
is carrying as his third dam, RAIN SHOWER.
RAIN SHOWER's pedigree is carrying many great sires you don't
came across very often. Just take a look:
RAIN SHOWER http://www.pedigreequery.com/rain+shower
Jorge wrote:Pan (FR) (1947)
Can be seen within the pedigree of TAKE THE POINTS
http://www.pedigreequery.com/take+the+points2
Jorge, this one is also interesting
http://www.pedigreequery.com/marchand+dor
Glad to see the extraordinary influence of the great Argentinean super sire, ALAN BRECK (Chestnut H 1918), who is the broodmare sire of MIREILLE, fifth dam of ARTIQUE http://www.pedigreequery.com/artique2
In spite the fact that the influence is remote, ALAN BRECK was a one-of-a-kind stallion.
In spite the fact that the influence is remote, ALAN BRECK was a one-of-a-kind stallion.
Interesting pedigree that of BARRIER REEF's second broodmare:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/barrier+reef7
http://www.pedigreequery.com/barrier+reef7
Jorge wrote:Any update here?
You don't come across very often to a pedigree
who is carrying the name of NATIVE DANCER's near nemesis,
Preakness & Belmont runner up, JAMIE K. Not only does he appears in the following pedigree, but via a son rather that through a daughter.
Take a look at DANCINGROCK STAR:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/dancingrockstar
Name most improbable stallion you can name in a 20th Century
Hi from OZ,
How about CHEVENING (1897) GB, by ORION (1888) rare son of SHOT OVER, #13C who won the 1882 English Derby, one of the few fillies to have achieved that feat.
CHEVENING #8H, whose dam is Simena (1890) is tail female to WOODBINE
#8C, being the Great, Great, Great Grandaughter.
CHEVENING did not throw a son, capable of continuing the line, yet both Woodbine and Shotover are still going strong.
Woodbine's tail is still wagging with STORM CAT and his sons.
Shot Over's tail is wagging with Mr. Prospector, Seattle Slew etc.
I have only seen CHEVENING in two pedigrees, so he is perhaps the rarest, apart from BESSUM, of which I spoke once before.
Cheers from OZ.
Where spring has sprung and the grass has riz;
I wonder where the flowers is.
Touichy.
How about CHEVENING (1897) GB, by ORION (1888) rare son of SHOT OVER, #13C who won the 1882 English Derby, one of the few fillies to have achieved that feat.
CHEVENING #8H, whose dam is Simena (1890) is tail female to WOODBINE
#8C, being the Great, Great, Great Grandaughter.
CHEVENING did not throw a son, capable of continuing the line, yet both Woodbine and Shotover are still going strong.
Woodbine's tail is still wagging with STORM CAT and his sons.
Shot Over's tail is wagging with Mr. Prospector, Seattle Slew etc.
I have only seen CHEVENING in two pedigrees, so he is perhaps the rarest, apart from BESSUM, of which I spoke once before.
Cheers from OZ.
Where spring has sprung and the grass has riz;
I wonder where the flowers is.
Touichy.
"There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of man." W.Churchill.
Name most improbable stallion you can name in a 20th Century
On Wedensday, Dec 08, 2010 Jorge wrote |
PAN (FR) 1947.
PAN, was exported to Australia, where he performed pretty well, and was a good Broodmare sire as well.
STAKES WINNERS are as Follows:-
ALTI PAN (FR) 1954. 1957 Grand Prix de Paris 3000 mtrs (15 furlongs)
DOUBTLESS (AUS) 1956. 1958 December Stakes 6 furlongs
FASTEST (AUS) 1958. 1962 Princess Handicap 1 Mile
FLORIDA KEYS (AUS) 1958. 1965 Fredrick Clissold Hcp 6 Furlongs
HOME JAMES (AUS) 1959. 1963 Grafton Cup 10 Furlongs
1964 Grafton Cup 10 Furlongs
FRENCH EMPIRE (AUS) 1957. 1962 Warrnambool Cup 11 Furlongs
PAN SHAH (AUS) 1958. 1960 Cannonbury Stakes 5 Furlongs
PRUNDA (AUS) 1959. 1963 Doomben Stakes 7 Furlongs
1964 Summer Cup 10 Furlongs
1966 Ipswich Cup 10 Furlongs
1968 Doomben Newmarket 7 Furlongs
1969 International Stakes 10 Furlongs
RED ROCK (AUS) 1957. 1963 Canberra Cup 10 Furlongs
VIN ROSE (AUS) 1959. 1961 Fulham Park Plate 4 Furlongs
PAN (FR) 1947 is also the sire of the second dam of MANUAN, a very good sprinter/miler, who is mentioned on Page 10 of "Tesio Master of Matings" by Ken McLean.
Pan, can still be obtained in some pedigrees in Australia, but is getting rarer as time extends.
Cheers from Australia.
Touchy.
PAN (FR) 1947.
PAN, was exported to Australia, where he performed pretty well, and was a good Broodmare sire as well.
STAKES WINNERS are as Follows:-
ALTI PAN (FR) 1954. 1957 Grand Prix de Paris 3000 mtrs (15 furlongs)
DOUBTLESS (AUS) 1956. 1958 December Stakes 6 furlongs
FASTEST (AUS) 1958. 1962 Princess Handicap 1 Mile
FLORIDA KEYS (AUS) 1958. 1965 Fredrick Clissold Hcp 6 Furlongs
HOME JAMES (AUS) 1959. 1963 Grafton Cup 10 Furlongs
1964 Grafton Cup 10 Furlongs
FRENCH EMPIRE (AUS) 1957. 1962 Warrnambool Cup 11 Furlongs
PAN SHAH (AUS) 1958. 1960 Cannonbury Stakes 5 Furlongs
PRUNDA (AUS) 1959. 1963 Doomben Stakes 7 Furlongs
1964 Summer Cup 10 Furlongs
1966 Ipswich Cup 10 Furlongs
1968 Doomben Newmarket 7 Furlongs
1969 International Stakes 10 Furlongs
RED ROCK (AUS) 1957. 1963 Canberra Cup 10 Furlongs
VIN ROSE (AUS) 1959. 1961 Fulham Park Plate 4 Furlongs
PAN (FR) 1947 is also the sire of the second dam of MANUAN, a very good sprinter/miler, who is mentioned on Page 10 of "Tesio Master of Matings" by Ken McLean.
Pan, can still be obtained in some pedigrees in Australia, but is getting rarer as time extends.
Cheers from Australia.
Touchy.
"There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of man." W.Churchill.