20+ sires that went to another place and became successful

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20+ sires that went to another place and became successful

Postby Jorge » Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:04 pm

20+ sires that went to another place and became successful sires.
List them.

I know one case: Gray Phantom (Ambiorix--Grey Flight) was over 20 years old when he was exported to PR where he sired several good stakes horses for around 4 years. They did it because many of his sons raced quite well over there, before being imported.

List other cases.

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Postby Tappiano » Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:36 am

The biggest was the one who never covered a mare here.... Sunday Silence. The breeders were never willing to even take a chance on him.

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Postby summerhorse » Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:48 pm

Sir Tristram (IRE)
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Noholme II (came to US and sired Leading Sire Nodouble)
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Postby JCBloodstock » Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:42 pm

Mr. Prospector was a super sire in Florida 1st crop and came to Kentucky and became immortal

Saint Ballado once stood for $2500 in Florida

And how about those Windfield Stallions that started in Canada and moved to Kentucky

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Postby Venusian » Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:59 am

May I be the first to reply on-topic?

Diomed, first winner of the Epsom Derby, was 20 or 21 when he was exported to America, after a disappointing career at stud in Britain. The turnaround in "form" was a revelation.

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Postby diomed » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:51 am

Venusian wrote:May I be the first to reply on-topic?

Diomed, first winner of the Epsom Derby, was 20 or 21 when he was exported to America, after a disappointing career at stud in Britain. The turnaround in "form" was a revelation.

Glencoe was another one...

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Postby madelyn » Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:49 pm

What about Spend a Buck? Nothing splendid there until he met those South American mares..
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Postby majxmom » Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:05 pm

Strike the Gold was leading sire in Turkey.
"When I am on my deathbed, I imagine I will say, 'Thank God I did that'" - Arthur Hancock, on buying back Gato del Sol from Europe after Exceller was killed in a slaughterhouse in Sweden.

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Postby leveeguy » Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:51 pm

Hussonet. Found great success in the Southern Hemishphere.

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Postby tbrace » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:46 pm

Roar,

Ok in North America, sensational in South America.

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Postby Bettina » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:45 am

Hallo,
for German Thoroughbredbreeding a claim Dark Ronald. (by bay Ronald)., bred in Ireland, raced in England. Dark Ronald was purchased for Germany in 1913.

Dark Ronald founded in My Homecountry a successful Sireline, including an almost unbroken Line Of German Derby winners and which still exists.

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Postby da hossman » Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:38 am

tbrace I think you may be confusing Roar with Roy - Roar did shuttle to Argentina his early years at stud and had some success, but after a few years Haras Biznaga was no longer willing to spend the money to shuttle him. Eventually he went from Lanes End to Rancho San Miguel (CA) on a lease. RSM then purchased Biznaga's interest in Roar, and he stayed at RSM until his death.

Roy was several times the Leading Sire in Chile and his Chilean-breds won graded stakes in Argentina and Brazil as well. Roy's lack of commercial appeal in North America coupled with his huge success in South America ended his shuttling; he remained in Chile.
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Postby da hossman » Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:45 am

Just clarifying a few things in this thread - Sir Tristram entered stud in New Zealand and stayed there. Hussonet entered stud in Chile and was not tried in this country until after he was Leading Sire in Chile (once Messara bought him). Messara now stands him in Australia.

The original subject of the thread was "20 + (year olds) that went another place and became successful sires. List them". I do not know of any.
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Postby majxmom » Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:14 pm

Sorry, I didn't get that about the age being 20. I thought you were trying to compile a LIST of 20. :oops:

What about Whirlaway? He was pretty old when he went to France. I don't know if he did well there.
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Postby Jorge » Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:08 pm

Tappiano wrote:The biggest was the one who never covered a mare here.... Sunday Silence. The breeders were never willing to even take a chance on him.


Hope they don't extend the bypass with his excellent sons.