Son of Safely Kept Available for Stallion Duties

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Son of Safely Kept Available for Stallion Duties

Postby Des » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:25 am

Just A Touch


A friend of mine is looking to have this son of Safely Kept stand for stud duties...I think he would do well as a commercial breeding. He has a few brothers at Stud..

Anyone interested please PM me.

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Postby Retrospectiv » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:54 am

What makes you think he'd be a commerical stallion prospect?

His sire has been shipped out of KY and sired nothing of note.
His dam was a great runner, but an average producer and has no sons of note at stud.

He ran for a tag, and doesn't appear to have won even a regional stakes.

I'm sure he'd make a pretty gelding.
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Postby Des » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:30 am

Retrospectiv:

Thanks for your opinion, however I was not asking for one...

Before you post next time you should do some research on the Dam and her sons. And for your info, you don't need to be stakes placed to make it as a Stud. It helps but there's no guarantee. I think he's worth a try and that's all that counts. If you are not interested move on like the others who read and passed on it.

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Postby cng » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:50 pm

Des wrote:Retrospectiv:

Thanks for your opinion, however I was not asking for one...

Before you post next time you should do some research on the Dam and her sons. And for your info, you don't need to be stakes placed to make it as a Stud. It helps but there's no guarantee. I think he's worth a try and that's all that counts. If you are not interested move on like the others who read and passed on it.


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Postby Toccet02 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:43 pm

I have to jump in here . . . if I had the means, I certainly wouldn't mind taking a look at him as a sire--Aldebaran has sired a few decent horses, who have many starts to their credit looks like.
Also, how do you call offspring of Safely Kept "average" when 5 out of 8 have earned over 100K?
Aldebaran and Safely Kept made 23 and 31 starts respectively.
Just a Touch was in the money 13 out of 15 starts. Maybe he'll pass on heart.

Besdies the fact that you did jump in with public unrequested advice, I really disagree with your analysis. Not everyone is shooting for G1 winners, and that's not necessarily out of the question either.
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Postby KBEquine » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:06 pm

cng wrote:~There is always one more imbecile than you counted on~ :wink:


So true in so many situations.

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Postby dublino » Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:45 am

Toccet02 wrote:Maybe he'll pass on heart.


He would want to, it doesn't look like he will pass on speed.

In any economic climate especially this one, he would make a nice gelding.

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Postby Toccet02 » Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:50 am

KBEquine wrote:
cng wrote:~There is always one more imbecile than you counted on~ :wink:


So true in so many situations.


AND . . . looks like we get TWO more! Oh joy! :wink:
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Postby LB » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:12 am

Toccet02 wrote:
KBEquine wrote:
cng wrote:~There is always one more imbecile than you counted on~ :wink:


So true in so many situations.


AND . . . looks like we get TWO more! Oh joy! :wink:


Make that three.

If the original post hadn't started by saying that the "stallion would do well as a commercial breeding" this would be a whole other conversation. But there's nothing in that horse's pedigree or race record to suggest that he would be commercially viable. Maybe he'd make a nice sporthorse stallion, I don't know. But that's not what was offered.

Des wrote: And for your info, you don't need to be stakes placed to make it as a Stud. It helps but there's no guarantee. I think he's worth a try and that's all that counts.


Sorry, but I have to disagree. That's not all that counts when you aren't willing to back the horse with your own money and stand him at stud yourself.

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Postby Des » Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:53 pm

LB ( How would you campare this horse to The Green Monkey)

and to answer your questions it's simple .. The horse is not mine first of all and moreover ..I am not into breeding, am into racing...Hope that answers your question...

AGAIN IF YOU ARE NOT INTEREST I DO NOT NEED YOUR COMMENT..

Hope that's simple enough

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Postby Fireslam » Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:57 pm

You're posting on a public forum; anyone can make any comment they want.

Comparisons between the Green Monkey; thats easy. Both had zero talent.

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Postby Des » Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:28 pm

Thank you ...Next

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Postby Retrospectiv » Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:00 am

I'm not about to appologize for my comment. I stand behind it.
This IS a public board. If no one had any comments, it'd be a pretty boring board.

Indeed, as LB pointed, the OP was stating that the stallion in question would be commercially viable. I listed reasons as to why he wouldn't be.

Seriously people, do we really need another sub-par stallion making babies? A horse who showed some serious talent merits a shot. A horse with just a well known sire & dam who didn't show any real talent are a dime a dozen.

Go ahead and market him to the sport horse crowd if he's got the conformation and disposition for it.
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Postby Crystal » Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:25 pm

Commercial breeding can be different at different regional levels..

true, I wouldn't expect him to get a full "KY size" commercial book, but maybe he would do ok if he was WELL supported by a owner who already has a mare band and was looking for different bloodlines.

I do agree it would be hard to market a stallion like him as commercial in this day and age and as it was pointed out his sire was sold somewhat early on.

Maybe he is a big, thick boned, good looking guy and could make some runners. It's just hard these days to keep a stud just to find out if he can throw runners... down the line.

Not hatin'.. just saying..

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Postby madelyn » Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:53 pm

The proof of his appeal will be in the number of pm's the OP receives..
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