TB stallions standing to non TB mares?

[Slew83]

Any one know of any top ranked thoroughbred stallions that stand to non TB mares(i.e. quarter or paint mares).

[austique]

I saw an Honour and Glory quarter horse filly go through the Heritage Place sale I think in January. I know Walmac bred Favorite Trick and Salt Lake to quarter horse mares, but John T.L. Jones has quarter horse interests. I believe Favorite Trick had an All American qualifier in his first crop. They also experimented with breeding some top quarter horse mares to Alydar ages ago.

[Slew83]

I saw an Honour and Glory quarter horse filly go through the Heritage Place sale I think in January. I know Walmac bred Favorite Trick and Salt Lake to quarter horse mares, but John T.L. Jones has quarter horse interests. I believe Favorite Trick had an All American qualifier in his first crop. They also experimented with breeding some top quarter horse mares to Alydar ages ago.

Did the Alydar quarters ever race?

[henthorn]

Slew83, I suspect you could breed any quarter horse mare to any available TB stallion that you can afford, unless the stallion is already overbooked. Any successes or failures won't find their way into the stats on the stallion advertising pages, as it only records TB success or lack of it. Of course, if the horse is known for producing good quarterhorse crosses, they would start advertising also in the QH publications.

I suspect if you look up some of the quarter horse organizations on-line, you'll find references to TB stallions that are already considered worthwhile matchups. Usually TB sprinters fit the bill.

[madelyn]

Actually, the stallion has to be "listed" with the AQHA; I list one of ours, Bad Boy Atta. Otherwise, the foal cannot be Appendix reg'd.

[Regal Pleasure]

Hennessy has a few QH foals. (Thanks to D.Wayne.)

[Regal Pleasure]

Actually, the stallion has to be "listed" with the AQHA; I list one of ours, Bad Boy Atta. Otherwise, the foal cannot be Appendix reg'd.

True, but all that requires is someone that is willing to do it. As long as someone is willing to pay the $50, send in a copy of the front and back of his papers and pictures it is a done deal. (And he has to be DNA typed.)

[Karie]

I have seen a AQHA Appendix filly by Skip Away - Named "Can U Skip"
I know she was a race winner.. and half to a stakes filly named "Can U Fly" (by, Iroquois Park) Both were owned by Bernie Flint and trained by Richard Rettelle....
I was told that "Can U Skip" was sloooooooow... They sold her to someone in Oklahoma... Never heard another word about her.

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Whoa.. I looked up Can U Skip and she is in the all breeds database and she is actually 3/4 thoroughbred.. and 1/4 quarter horse.. ha ha

[Karie]

Here is the dam of those foals that I posted about... SHe was bred to all thoroughbreds.....


CAN U DANCE'S Offspring


CAN U FLY 3737494 Brown Mare 04/16/1996 Parent Verified; Genetic Typed
Sire- IROQUOIS PARK (TB) T0504045
Race: 11/2003 SI- 112 Starts- 60 Wins- 18 2nds- 20 3rds- 4 $ 114,125 Stakes- Wins- 7 2nds- 9 3rds- 3
Stakes: 1998 MPM 350 1ST GREAT LAKES EARL CLARK MEMORIAL FUTURITY $ 5,440
Stakes: 1998 HOO 350 1ST GOVERNOR'S STAKES $ 8,190
Stakes: 1999 MPM 300 1ST RING OF ROSES DERBY $ 4,576
Stakes: 2000 BEU 440 1ST ALL AMERICAN CONGRESS MATURITY G 3 $ 9,071
Stakes: 2001 HAW 400 1ST HAWTHORNE SPRINT $ 9,000
Stakes: 2001 AP 400 1ST WINDY CITY DASH $ 10,000
Stakes: 2002 MPM 330 1ST FATHERS DAY GOLD CUP $ 5,536
Stakes: 1998 MPM 400 2ND MT PLEASANT MEADOWS BUDWEISER FUTURITY G 3 $ 5,229
Stakes: 2000 MPM 250 2ND MOTHERS DAY SILVER CUP STAKES $ 2,257
Stakes: 2000 MPM 330 2ND FATHERS DAY GOLD CUP $ 2,298
Stakes: 2001 MPM 250 2ND MOTHERS DAY SILVER CUP STAKES $ 2,243
Stakes: 2001 MPM 330 2ND FATHERS DAY GOLD CUP $ 2,335
Stakes: 2001 CBY 400 2ND GREAT LAKES STAKES $ 2,450
Stakes: 2001 BEU 440 2ND ALL AMERICAN CONGRESS MATURITY G 3 $ 3,412
Stakes: 2002 BEU 440 2ND ALL AMERICAN CONGRESS MATURITY G 3 $ 4,073
Stakes: 2003 HOO 350 2ND BRADFORD STAKES $ 3,520
Stakes: 2001 MPM 400 3RD MIDWEST MATURITY $ 1,344
Stakes: 2002 MPM 400 3RD MIDWEST MATURITY $ 1,388
Stakes: 2002 RD 350 3RD QUEEN CITY DASH $ 1,000
Stakes: 2003 BEU 440 5TH ALL AMERICAN CONGRESS MATURITY G 3 $ 1,376
Stakes: 1999 BEU 440 ALL AMERICAN CONGRESS DERBY G 3 $ 251
Achievement: 2002 RACING CENTRAL HI-POINT AGED MARE
Achievement: 2001 RACING CENTRAL HI-POINT AGED MARE
Achievement: 2000 RACING SUPERIOR RACE HORSE
Achievement: 1998 RACING REGISTER OF MERIT

IROQUOIS DANCE 3946841 Gray Mare 04/06/1997 Parent Verified; Genetic Typed
Sire- IROQUOIS PARK (TB) T0504045
Race: 07/1999 SI- 88 Starts- 4 Wins- 1 2nds- 1 3rds- 0 $ 750 Stakes- Wins- 0 2nds- 0 3rds- 0
Achievement: 1999 RACING REGISTER OF MERIT

CAN U ZIP X0567774 Brown Gelding 05/27/1998 Parent Verified; Genetic Typed
Sire- IROQUOIS PARK (TB) T0504045
Race: 06/2004 SI- 98 Starts- 45 Wins- 6 2nds- 4 3rds- 11 $ 25,291 Stakes- Wins- 0 2nds- 0 3rds- 0
Stakes: 2000 MPM 400 7TH MT PLEASANT MEADOWS BUDWEISER FUTURITY G 3 $ 1,728
Stakes: 2000 BEU 400 10TH ALL AMERICAN CONGRESS FUTURITY G 3 $ 682
Achievement: 2003 RACING SUPERIOR RACE HORSE
Achievement: 2000 RACING REGISTER OF MERIT

CAN U SKIP X0590199 Chestnut Mare 01/13/2000 Parent Verified; Genetic Typed; Race Challenge
Sire- SKIP AWAY (TB) T0525611
Race: 08/2003 SI- 76 Starts- 10 Wins- 1 2nds- 0 3rds- 0 $ 1,460 Stakes- Wins- 0 2nds- 0 3rds- 0
Stakes: 2003 RP 400 11TH FORD OKLAHOMA CHALLENGE G 3 $ 0
Achievement: 2001 RACING MBNA CHALLENGE ENROLLED

CAN U DO IT 4552841 Bay Mare 01/09/2002 Parent Verified; Genetic Typed; Race Challenge
Sire- RICHTER SCALE (TB) T0536037
Race: 10/2004 SI- 80 Starts- 7 Wins- 0 2nds- 2 3rds- 2 $ 4,700 Stakes- Wins- 0 2nds- 0 3rds- 1
Stakes: 2004 MPM 300 3RD GREAT LAKES EARL CLARK MEMORIAL FUTURITY $ 2,016
Achievement: 2004 RACING REGISTER OF MERIT
Achievement: 2002 RACING MBNA CHALLENGE ENROLLED

CAN U CATCH X0618403 Bay Stallion 01/23/2003 Parent Verified; Genetic Typed; Race Challenge
Sire- STATE CRAFT (TB) T0517575
Achievement: 2003 RACING MBNA CHALLENGE ENROLLED

HILDAGO X0630627 Brown Stallion 02/15/2004 Parent Verified; Genetic Typed
Sire- STATE CRAFT (TB) T0517575

[Slew83]

So are there Skip Aways, Hennessys, Honour and Glorys, and Alydars quarter horse colts at stud?

[austique]

The Alydar offspring were unsuccessful. I think Justanold Love had one and I can't remember the others. I'll ask my dad as he knows more about it.

[pembroke]

There is a quarter mare in my barn for foaling that is in foal to FUNONTHERUN by Runaway Groom. I understand they are very anxious to breed to QH mares. He stands in Ar.

[Regal Pleasure]

So are there Skip Aways, Hennessys, Honour and Glorys, and Alydars quarter horse colts at stud?

Here is the Hennessy son.

His name is Check Him Out.

http://www.schvaneveldtranch.com/index2.html

Edited to add that his first foals are just yearlings of 2005. So it remains to be seen how they do in the sale ring and the track.

[Regal Pleasure]

So are there Skip Aways, Hennessys, Honour and Glorys, and Alydars quarter horse colts at stud?

The only Skip Away QH is the 2000 model mare mentioned above.

Honour and Glory only has 2 QH foals. Both performers, neither was stakes placed. (Neither was very fast.) And both are mares.

Alydar only had 4. All foals of 1985. 2 Performers.

As far as soms at stud, it costs money to find out and I am too cheap to check.

Can't think of any off hand other than the Hennessy above. I believe the other Hennessy is a mare that is a full sister to the stud above.

[Slew83]

thanks