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 Post subject: Tiznow as sire of sires
PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:17 pm 
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Just learned that Colonel John has been sold to Korea. Tiz Wonderful had already
be relocated there. Is this a bad sign for Tiznow's prospects as a sire of sires? :(


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:45 pm 
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Well, none of his sons have exactly set the world on fire so far. These days, if a horse doesn't sire something pretty big (and preferably male) in his first crop or two, he's pretty much a goner as far as the commercial market goes.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:01 pm 
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I thought Tiz Wonderful and Colonel John were useful sires... but just hadn't sired a "big" one, I guess.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:40 pm 
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The thing about Tiznow sons is they tend to be late-developing and are throwing later developing foals.

Bullsbay and Tizway didn't get going until their 4yo seasons. Morning Line didn't even start until the Monmouth meet in July of his 3yo season and was running in a NW2X when most of his peers were running in the Travers. Colonel John matured early, but his full brother is a successful chaser.

If the market is looking for early graded stakes success out of this kind of horse, it's an unlikely sceanrio.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:14 pm 
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Too true.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:43 pm 
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Gemologist may be the exception to prove the rule. Yellow Agate won looking good, and she's bred on both sides to be later-maturing (out of a Lemon Drop Kid mare, 2nd dam by Sadlers Wells, from the family of Rainbow Quest).


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:22 am 
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I'm rooting for Theory in the Futurity to give Gemologist another GSW.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:42 pm 
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Theory did it.

Gemologist had a nice weekend...a filly taking 3rd in the Gr3 Matron and another Maiden special winner at Gulfstream.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:40 pm 
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Maybe a tad off topic but as a handicapper I have noticed that Tiznow's are usually heavily supported when they try the turf the 1st time. They are often coming off solid dirt performance though not always. They do not perform well in this role even if the other side of the pedigree supports the green stuff. Tiz Wonderful is not like his dad and does run lights out 1st turf.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:13 am 
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Tizway to South Korea. Sigh. :roll:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:17 am 
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Affirmed1 wrote:
Tizway to South Korea. Sigh. :roll:



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:14 am 
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Really disappointed to see Tizway get sold, seems so quick. They need time !!!
They sold Tiz Wonderful rather quickly too.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:58 am 
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I'm starting to think that the Man 'O War male line will be continued in....South Korea. :(


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:08 pm 
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Also disappointing is the lack of success of the IMported Sunday Silence stallions . . .

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