L'Africain Bleu (Byerly Turk sire line)

[Stedfast Farm]

L'Africain Bleu
Looking for this stallion was reportedly in New Mexico.
Would appreciate any information.

[jellac]

Stedfast - following up to my PM earlier today: here is the inactive reference I googled while searching for "L'Africain Bleu", New Mexico:

V. Grace Cunningham
V. Grace Cunningham. Los Lunas, New Mexico 2003.1.12.
Elks Uz; L'Africain Bleu; Moudix Bleu.
homepage.mac.com/pa_ma_/Stallion/StallionUSA/VGraceCunningham.html - 2k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages

I gather that V. Grace Cunningham at one time stood all three of these stallions. (The edited info for "Elks Uz shows the owner as "Veva G. Cunningham") IF this person is still in Los Lunas, NMx, it shouldn't be too hard to track them down via telephone directory, internet, etc.

L'Africain Bleu was reported bred to 14 TB mares in 2003 JCA report of that name and to none in 2004. This database lists no offspring for this stallion by contrast. He is the product of intense inbreeding to the Byerly Turk via sire St. Cyrien (LUTHIER) and Sagace (LUTHIER) dam's sire, in addition to other representatives close up in the pedigree.

Moudix Bleu has three lines to AMBIORIX (5S x 5S x 4D) while also being the relatively rare tail male descendant of MAHMOUD via his descendant: Pass The Tab. He is shown by this database to have produced one offspring in 2000.

Elks Uz by the stallion UZI, a son of Rich Cream is sex balanced inbred to My Babu, and with another line to Klarion is 6S x 6D x 6D DJEBEL. This database shows him to have had one offspring. This database shows this stallion to have produced four offspring from '93 - 2001 - one of whom is the dam of Moudix Bleu's sole listed offspring.

[jellac]

Here's something else I found on the web for "L'Africain Bleu"....It appears to be a race entry report on a 2YO filly by L'Africain Bleu to race a few days ago with her past performances shown, BUT I'm wondering if this isn't one of those "SYM Racing" horses, in other words not real??? CAn anyone verify for me if this filly exists?

4/2/2005

SP, Race ID 2447.5704 : Claiming ($50,000) Fillies and mares, 4 years old and up, Non-Winners of TWO Lifetime, A mile and one eighth on the Firm Turf Course, Purse : $14,700



PP 3
2/1 ON YOUR GRAVE(FR) (100) ID# 59607
G Carter ( 102 - 23 - 16 - 6 - 23% ) mwolves 4 Year Old Filly
(L'AFRICAIN BLEU (FR) x ELA-MANA-MOU(IRE) x NATIVE DANCER)
Bred by mwolves

Turf Classic Rank : N/A Races Wins Places Shows Earnings
Low Tag/Year: $20,000 Total 17 1 0 2 $26,356
Non M/C/O/S Wins: 0 Dirt 12 1 0 1 $23,716
Turf 5 0 0 1 $2,640
Routes 14 1 0 2 $25,083
Sprints 3 0 0 0 $1,273
Off 2 0 0 0 $1,065




Past Performances:

Race ID Trk RST Srf Dist Race Time SP# # PP C1 C2 C3 FIN Owner Jockey Odds

2412.5704 SP 4yo+ D -fst 8 Clm-20000NW2L 1:35 4/5 90 14 9 13 6-1/2 13 9-3/4 8 7-1/2 4 6-1/2 mwolves G Carter 6.30
2349.6216 FR F-3yo T -frm 9 -Alw 1:50 2/5 82 5 1 5 6-3/4 5 10-3/4 3 11-1/4 3 8-1/2 mwolves S Brent 17.90
2314.6203 FR F-3yo D -sly 6.5 Alw-21300NW1x 1:16 2/5 64 4 1 4 4 4 7-1/2 4 13 4 20 mwolves R Thieneman 7.90
2272.6316 IY F-3yo D -fst 9 bid race for ruby7 -Alw 1:50 3/5 85 5 5 3 5 3 7 4 3-3/4 3 7-1/4 mwolves J Riggs 5.00
2244.8412 SA F-3yo D -fst 8 Alw-24600NW1x 1:36 3/5 67 10 4 10 8 10 13 10 16-1/2 10 18-3/4 mwolves E Bueche 24.30
2216.5715 SP F-3yo D -sly 11 Alw-18200NW1x 2:18 2/5 66 9 4 6 7-1/4 6 11-1/2 6 13 7 31-1/4 mwolves R Craig 10.00
2195.5912 IR F-3yo D -fst 8 -Alw 1:36 3/5 78 12 6 10 7-1/2 10 12 11 13-3/4 7 12-1/4 mwolves D Lee 18.20
2174.8115 Z2 3yo T -frm 9 Alw-10700NW1x 1:51 1/5 54 9 5 9 8 9 13-1/4 9 21 9 29-1/4 mwolves D Brooks 6.00

[jellac]

And then this:

Breeding Statistics - 2003 Breeding Year / 2004 Foaling Year

Stallion MaresBred ReportsReceived LiveFoals PercentLiveFoals State
L'Africain 14 11 8 57% NM
Bleu (FR)


Can anyone fill in the names of those 8 foals if they were registered?

[Stedfast Farm]

Died 2003. One crop of foals in New Mexico.

Would like info on foals( location, for sale, etc....)

Thanks

Stedfast Farm

[ZiaLand]

I'm not far from Los Lunas, but I've never heard of this stallion or owner, however I did find one website that referred to the owner as Mike Cunningham, and there is a Michael Cunningham listed as a new member of the New Mexico Horse Breeders Association. I'll make some inquiries.

I did a google and got hits on this stallion from all over the planet.

Found this:

L'AFRICAIN BLEU (FR) (c. by =Saint Cyrien). 6 wins, 3 to 8 in France
and NA, $157,477 (USA), Grand Prix de Lyon-Aeroport Lyon-Satolas,
Prix de l'Avre, 2nd Prix de Reux.

copied from this site: http://hammond.tjcis.com/stonerside/members/data/pedspublic/IdleRich1995.asp (See listing under 3rd dam)

Appears he was bred in France and ran in Europe before coming to the US where he was trained by Sahadi for a time (ran in the December 1997 Hollywood Turf Cup against River Bay and Awad but didn't place). Also ran at Lone Star Park in 2000 (2nd). There's also a filly or mare by the same name, but here are a few websites that seem to pertain to the '93 stallion (for what it's worth?):

http://wh-racing.cool.ne.jp/Stallion/StallionUSA/VGraceCunningham.html

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Track/1675/97/97hwtfcp.html

http://www.racingchannel.com/results/LON/May00/LON00147.HTM

http://www.racingpost.co.uk/horses/racing_horse_form.sd?horse_id=447905

http://www.artemisian.com/Troy/Progeny/Pedigree/Default.asp?c=details&id=76810

http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~skiena/horse/horse/l/l_africain_bleu!.html


Laurie

[Stedfast Farm]

Thanks for the info. Let me know if you find out anything on the foals.

Steve

[jellac]

Yes - much thanks for all the internet sleuthing and too would like to know if you find out more about this stallion's offspring.

[ZiaLand]

No problem. I'll let you both know if I find any info regarding offspring.

Laurie