Forestry at 100,000?

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Forestry at 100,000?

Postby ef » Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:42 am

Just saw on the Blood Horse that Forestry's fee is now at 100,000. While I realize that they are free to charge whatever the market is willing to pay, does anyone else think this is way too high? He's a nice stallion; I think $50,000 to $60,000 might be more appropriate. Any thoughts?

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Postby ZiaLand » Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:51 am

Just one thought: That's outrageous!

Did the owner just decide to jump on the six-figure-hype bandwagon, or what could their motivation possibly be?

If I'm missing some major selling point with this stallion, please feel free to point it out.

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Postby parsixfarms » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:38 pm

I agree that this guy's fee seems way too high. For the high-quality book of mares that he's seen (CI = 3.29), his results (AEI = 2.02) are modest, at best. However, his progeny sell real well (average yearling so for this year sold for $290,000, with median of $250,000); I guess that's how they justify the fee.

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Postby Sam » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:05 pm

parsixfarms wrote:However, his progeny sell real well (average yearling so for this year sold for $290,000, with median of $250,000); I guess that's how they justify the fee.

Because GOD FORBID these damn stallions earn their stud fee the old fashioned way .. by producing REAL RACEHORSES, not these pampered moneyburners on toothpicks.

You mark my words .. we are 10 years away from a stallion ad that consists of "Sire was a $2.5 million 2yo in training, Dam sold for $6 million in foal" and all three of them are Unraced.

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Postby louis finochio » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:08 pm

Aaron U. Jones owner of Forestry is a good friend of mine. I will ask him why the elevated fee? Maybe Aaron wants to upgrade Forestry's mares.
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Postby austique » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:27 pm

Sam wrote:Because GOD FORBID these damn stallions earn their stud fee the old fashioned way .. by producing REAL RACEHORSES, not these pampered moneyburners on toothpicks.


Amen, sister! Is the current logic now that all that matters are sales results? Why the heck are people so silly that they will pay a fortune for foals from a sire that has already proven he can't get the goods to deserve that kind of price? Forestry is lovely animal, but sheesh we're not breeding show ponies here.

On another hand kudos for Taylor Made on their management of Northern Afleet whose fee was raised to a very reasonable $20,000.
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Postby Sam » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:37 pm

louis finochio wrote:Maybe Aaron wants to upgrade Forestry's mares.

Well, seeing as he isn't really producing with the mares he's getting, I don't see how RAISING his fee is going to make that happen. His CI is already higher than most stallions (over 3), it can't get much better than that.

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Postby FOS » Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:47 pm

hi guys

Forestry at $100,000 now?

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Respectfully