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Slew83
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Folklore

Postby Slew83 » Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:03 am

Since Folklore won the Alberto VO5 Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies (gr. I) will Tiznow be getting top class mares? :?:

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Postby summerhorse » Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:21 pm

I don't think his mares exactly sucked before but I'm sure now he'll get even better ones.
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Postby sparta » Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:37 am

He was bred to a smaller number of mares in his third crop, so perhaps Winstar isn't raising his fee substantially in order to ensure that he gets a large book in 2006.

(I think he needs better mares as well; I'd imagine that a lot of folks with Storm Cat mares are considering him now.)

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Postby kimberley mine » Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:49 am

sparta wrote:He was bred to a smaller number of mares in his third crop, so perhaps Winstar isn't raising his fee substantially in order to ensure that he gets a large book in 2006.


I think that keeping him at $30k would be a good move for Winstar. Aside from Folklore, he has only about six other winners out of a first crop of about 100. At least half have not even started yet. I suspect that some breeders remember that he didn't fire until mid to late 3yo and are waiting to see what his 3yos do.

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Postby kimberley mine » Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:52 am

By the way, Cee's Song's fifth dam is Papila (ARG), who is also the dam of Crimson Satan. I strongly suspect that linebreeding is the source of some of the "pop" in Folklore.

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Postby louis finochio » Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:43 pm

Their is a lesson to be learned here. Look at the quality of mares Successfull Appeal was bred to and the class level they raced at.

Look at the mares that Princequillo was bred to and you will realize its the stallion that makes his mares. If the stallion is a flop the best quality book of mares will not make the stallion a top stud.

J O Tobin was bred to the best quality mares and was a flop as a stallion.
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Postby roving boy » Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:23 pm

I purchaseed a Tiznow season for a client last Monday for $35,000 and was told his fee would probably move up to $40,000.
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