Pedigree Query

ElPrado wrote:What is this fascination with 17 hand + 2 year olds? God knows what growth hormones they've been given. I wouldn't want an 18.2 hand 3 year year old. The jock would need a ladder to mount, leg up or no.

I am also baffled by this. When you get into the really, really tall category of Thoroughbred, for every Zenyatta you have 999 unsound egg-beaters that can't beat a fat man on the way to a free meal. Give me a well-balanced, athletic looking 15.3 hand youngster any day over those 17h babies (who will most likely break down anyhow).

My yearlings (4/24-6/17/10) are all 15-15.2 now and we are prepping to sell in October. They are nice, athletic yearlings.

Back to this $925K horse, we shall see what happens...

Once again, since this thread has resurfaced... after winning his debut, Brigand ran 2nd in the G3 Hollywood Juvenile Championship S. in his second start. His record is now 2-1-1-0, $53,000.

LB wrote:Once again, since this thread has resurfaced... after winning his debut, Brigand ran 2nd in the G3 Hollywood Juvenile Championship S. in his second start. His record is now 2-1-1-0, $53,000.

Let's do the current math $925k - $53k = $872K. (Are we there yet?)

Would you expect to be "there" after 2 starts?????

Years ago as part of one of TOBA's seminars we went to various trainers barns and mine was Mike Hushion who had two absolutely monstrous Slew O'Gold two year olds. Both were over 17 hands and in both cases the owner refused to geld. I don't think either ever made a start.

Not gelding a super tall colt is the Right Move, since gelding removes the testosterone producing glands. In the case of colts, testosterone is responsible for building rock hard bone and muscling the horse, and controls height. A horse gelded young will usually grow taller than otherwise, and the bones will lack the durability of a stallion's bones at the same age.

The colt is headed in the right direction Thus Far ...Would you Say..... Bob is so good at picking these young athletes...Saw one on Sunday at Del Mar "Secret Circle " looked good in his Debut

If a horse is put into the right hands no matter what the price it will be brought to its' fullest potential.. whether it makes up a 4k or 925k ROI remains to be seens.

Just economics say it could be unlikely this horse makes a return on his purchase price plus training fees, but the foundation is layed for a potential stallion prospect down the line.

City Zip only made 2 lifetime starts before he got hurt, but he is pretty hot right now. Who wouldn't have liked to have a piece of this guy?

I hope this horse does well and continues to race in top class.

Crystal wrote:City Zip only made 2 lifetime starts before he got hurt, but he is pretty hot right now. Who wouldn't have liked to have a piece of this guy?

I think you might want to take another look at City Zip's record. He raced 11 times as a 2yo and 12 times as a 3yo, ending up with 9 wins (8 stakes wins including the G1 Hopeful) and $818,000 in earnings.

Are you confusing him with Cactus Ridge? He was the one along with the more recent Street Hero who were sent to stud at three.

Secret Circle is the FIRST good looking runner Eddington's had. Might mean he's been sold because that's usually when they start to get runners.

It is another stallion I am thinking of.. he was a ny stallion that stood at Contempory stud.. he made like 2 starts but won his first out by something extrodinary..

I need a nap.

Quoting Bill Shanklin:

["A royally-bred yearling that goes through the auction ring for a seven-figure sum eventually has to prove its worth on the racetrack. At the same time, a colt or filly with an unfashionable pedigree, a major conformation fault, and a four-figure sales price can show its true value on the racetrack.

The racetrack embodies and demonstrates the point Bill Parcells made so cogently about professional football coaches: “YOU ARE WHAT YOUR RECORD SAYS YOU ARE". This “pretty is as pretty does” code has always appealed to me." ]

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There was a City something that barely got around the track twice. I think he wound up in NY for a few minutes. Then he shipped somewhere else fast.

Brigand is entered in Sunday's G2 Best Pal S. at Del Mar.

Sunday, he had a nice 4th place finish worth $9,000.