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Postby Bondama » Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:12 am

Soliciting tips and advice on how to teach a stallion to drop his penis down for washing. Mine refuses to cooperate! He bathes fine, but no amount of coaxing or tickling will get it out......I'm a little unsure about reaching in. :oops: Help!

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Postby madelyn » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:45 pm

Ticklish subject :lol:

Usually I have warm soapy water and a REALLY Soft rag. I just start around the spot, work up into the space, sort of gently dig around and Rocky gets the idea and drops the equipment. I can then dip it in the bucket, etc. But he NEVER kicks or strikes. If I had a stallion I didn't know I'd be tempted to hobble the hind feet or have a handler with a twitch and a foreleg held or tied up.

Rocky is a very sensitive intelligent horse and has learned English well. Some folks visited recently and wanted to look at him for their mares.. wouldn't you know, I brought him out and with no mare in sight, he dropped the equipment in case they wanted to see that too :D I asked him to put that away and he looked carefully at me and slowly brought it back up. Maybe he thought that size matters and they would want to inspect ALL of the merchandise?

I have seen horses that will drop it and retract it on command, virtually, but have no idea how they got trained that way.
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Postby Intrinsic Worth » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:39 pm

A lot of times, male horses are taught to drop and urinate at the track by whistling. I guess you whistle when you see them urinating and then later on, when they hear you whistle, they urinate. I've seen it done on many occasions.
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Postby freshman » Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:03 pm

Hmmm, I think that the Lasix has more to do with it than the whistling.

I think that the most logical way to get the horse to drop his penis and submit to washing is to pair it with the actual breeding. Let him tease the mare to the point of arousal, wash him, and then let him cover the mare. He might get a little frustrated, but he'll deal with it this early in the season.

Eventually, he will not only tolerate the washing, he will drop his penis at the washing station in his eagerness to breed. You could "practice" with one of your own mares that you know is clean in order to establish the sequence for him. A sort of foreplay, if you will, or at least an example of classical conditioning.

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Postby Intrinsic Worth » Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:56 am

freshman wrote:Hmmm, I think that the Lasix has more to do with it than the whistling.

I think that the most logical way to get the horse to drop his penis and submit to washing is to pair it with the actual breeding. Let him tease the mare to the point of arousal, wash him, and then let him cover the mare. He might get a little frustrated, but he'll deal with it this early in the season.

Eventually, he will not only tolerate the washing, he will drop his penis at the washing station in his eagerness to breed. You could "practice" with one of your own mares that you know is clean in order to establish the sequence for him. A sort of foreplay, if you will, or at least an example of classical conditioning.




Did I not say that I've seen it done before? I've also seen it done with ex-racehorses who aren't at the track.
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Postby Bondama » Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:16 am

In my quest for ever-increasing knowledge on subjects equine, this being one of them, I found a howlingly funny step-by-step "how to" on sheath cleaning. It's too hilarious not to share. Enjoy! :twisted:

http://www.equusite.com/articles/health/healthSheathCleaning.shtml

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a song for you

Postby tammysinnett » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:43 pm

My friend sent this to me the first time I had to clean my boys money maker......mine likes me to waste no time he gets impatient .....so sing fast......The Sheath Cleaning Song

How's it hangin?
So much cleaner.
Aren't you glad I
washed your weiner?

I'll admit it's
kinda creepy
that I had to stick my arm
up in your peepee.

Refrain: Clean that sheath, I need a mare oh
Clean that sheath, I would'nt care but
Alll my friends, they think that I'm deranged (dont' get that part)

It was sticky
It was gunky
It felt icky
It smelled funky.

It was cruddy
It was crusty
when I pulled it out
it creaked like it was rusty.

Refrain: Clean that sheath, I need a mare oh
Clean that sheath, I would'nt care but
Alll my friends, they think that I'm deranged

After half an hour of toilin'
and of squirtin' baby oil in
you're as fresh there
as a daisy.

Either this means I love you
Or else I'M CRAZY! :wink:

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Postby freshman » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:52 pm

Intrinsic Worth wrote:
freshman wrote:Hmmm, I think that the Lasix has more to do with it than the whistling.

I think that the most logical way to get the horse to drop his penis and submit to washing is to pair it with the actual breeding. Let him tease the mare to the point of arousal, wash him, and then let him cover the mare. He might get a little frustrated, but he'll deal with it this early in the season.

Eventually, he will not only tolerate the washing, he will drop his penis at the washing station in his eagerness to breed. You could "practice" with one of your own mares that you know is clean in order to establish the sequence for him. A sort of foreplay, if you will, or at least an example of classical conditioning.




Did I not say that I've seen it done before? I've also seen it done with ex-racehorses who aren't at the track.


I guess I thought that the question was regarding washing a stallion's genitals, not catching a urine sample. Which doesn't involve touching the penis at all. I'm sure even a trick-peeing horse would take exception with somebody assaulting his member while he is performing.

I'm sure plenty of horses respond to whistling, and even more people who whistle foolishly in the test barn where the horse is going to pee "like a racehorse" from the Lasix anyway.

I've heard that QH halter horses are trained to urinate at a promt like whistling, since they are drug tested after every class. I'm sure that is done regularly, and that you have witnessed it.

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Postby Roguelet » Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:08 pm

I almost just DIED laughing! Here I am, reading this thread, and one of the Equinenow horse names flashed up on the top of this screen.....

Well, it's hilarious if it's timed just right... :lol:
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Postby Bondama » Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:27 am

OMG Tammy......I am dying here!!! My secretary came to the door to see what I was laughing so hard about!!

That is a classic!


Roguelet - Too funny <pursing lips> 8)
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Postby Mood Swings » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:22 am

Tammy that is hilarious :lol: Thanks for the laugh!
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Postby TBLADY » Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:12 am

My old stallion never ran on Lasix...needless to say a little tweet tweet whistle and he would drop and yes pee. Was very helpful while we were eventing. I would also use the whistle to wash and clean him before and after breedings. Rubbing high on his back legs would do it as would rubbing his bellie right in front of his sheath.

OMG Trav...I just saw that HORSES NAME....WHISTLE DICK (SNORT- coffee through the nose...thanks!)
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Postby LKR » Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:06 am

Well, we went out and had a close and personal meeting with Basket Weave. As I am cleaning, btw, the old boy was a jewel, it certainly wasn't his first rodeo, I commented to my husband that everyone says someone comes along right about now. Sure enough, here came the paper delivery person, couldn't see if it was a man or woman, and I just had to laugh. :oops: I assured Weaver I wasn't laughing at HIM, I was laughing about the situation and the audience, albeit just a short time. Otherwise, he got squeaky clean and that is done for a while. Didn't have too much of a bean. And how was your Saturday afternoon??? :wink:
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