What do you do about a puller?

[sulphurfire]

Just trying to find out the best way to deal with this. One of my two year olds when you tie her and walk away she will pull violently. I have an old telephone pole that's been converted to a tying post, we put a large inner tube (it's worked with another horse I used to have) to tie them to. She pulled so violently she broke the tube(picture a fish on a line). Other than that(now that my daughter won't let her chase her anymore) stand still for grooming ,saddling, fly spray, but just doesn't want to be left tied.
Any suggestions?

[wen8t]

well the inter tube thing was great idea until she broke it, the prolem is now she has broke so many ties and she knows its going to break if she pulls hard enough, go back to the inter tube double it up to where she can't break it she is probably going to flip out , if she flips over and doesn't get up, be ready to cut rope , and do it again . Hopefuly she'll strech it and hopefully give her head to it

[madelyn]

This is not a good thing for her to learn.

One trick you could try is putting on TWO halters, with one tied longer than the other. When she breaks the first one, she is still tied, which she will most likely find truly puzzling.

[nythoroughbredvz]

if you have a portable round pen, box her in around it like she would be tied in a stall door confine her.. do walk out of site at first and talk to her. give her a little time if she acts ok turn her loose and do it again. then move the panels farther away each time untill you give her a large area and she still stays tied. if she breaks loose she then knows she cant take off and get her way. one you think she got the idia remove the panels.

[casallc]

Put a lariat rope around her belly with the hondo in the middle of her belly and the lariat running between her front legs up through her halter use a bungie (or something with give) to tie her short and the lariat a little longer. If she sits back the lariat will squeeze her belly and cut her air off, it will scare her and she will figure out it's not fun to pull back and break halters.

[robbinsapple]

have you ever seen the tie hook that clinton anderson uses? It seems to work very well and I've seen a lot of people use it. I had a filly that had that trouble, we were on a trail ride and she was tied to the trailer with a regular trailer tie, she flipped out, tried to go backwards and ended up going circular, like doing cartwheels sideways while she was still tied to the trailer, needless to say it must have been some tie because it never budged and she never did it again. Although she was quite disgruntled for a while.

[Tiz]

Buy a Blocker Tie Ring from downunderhorsemanship.com. Get the tying lesson dvd with it. Don't tie your filly up before you get this stuff, because she's going to kill herself at the rate she's going.

[Intrinsic Worth]

I started tying babies at two months old. First I would just ground tie them and make them stand still while I brushed them. Then I would loop the lead rope around the bars of the stall to make them feel as though they were tied. Then I would bungee them. By 3 and 4 months I could bungee them to their stalls and leave them there with iceboots etc. and they wouldn't move, not one. I could even take them out of their stalls away from their mothers and ground tie them to put bandages on etc.

I would start at the beginning and simply make her stand still while you work with her. Gradually work up from there.

[sulphurfire]

Thanks for the replies, all are being discussed with my husband and waiting on the ground to dry. She will stand tied until you move away thats the problem, she'll stand quiet all day while you groom her, but if you walk away she explodes. She earned her name Flip because she would flip herself when learning to lead as a long yearling and I mean throw herself on the ground when you tried to lead her( a butt rope stopped that).... hmmm I wonder if I can apply that same principle to tying her..........ttyl
Thanks
Christy

[Tiz]

Seems like adding more confinement, as in butt rope, or rope around her belly, to a horse that already freaks when she realizes she's confined, is going to escalate her violent response.

[TBLADY]

I'm with Iworth here. We teach them to tie as soon as they start eating from a creep feeder. Starting by sliding a lead rope though either the bars of the stall or an eye bolt, holding on to the other end whale they are eating. Kind of like a treat if they are good...they get to keep eating.

If she only acts up when you leave then run the rope outside the stall and maybe slip out of sight with the other end offering resistance but not a SOLID TIE OFF. You may have to use a lunge line for this is you have to go some distance for her to think you are gone. Horses who pull this I find have confidance issues. Is this a racehorse? How is she in the trailer alone? Or starying Gate alone? How is she outside alone?

I try to never put any horse in a position to feel like they are in danger or have a need to fear anything. Scaring a horse into doing something will only offer a more dangerous situation later.

[sulphurfire]

She's not a race horse, she's a sale barn refugee we bought about a year and a half ago(for 90 dollars). She has thrown herself on the ground since we first bought her, when she's uncomfortable, and since she learned to lead she hadn't done it until we tied her up and walked away to get some flyspray we had left and then the explosion happened.
This was taken early this past summer



Other than the tying she's very well mannered and quiet, she fell asleep the first time we saddled her, easy to groom, vet, etc., not normally an excitable filly. When she's lying down she'll even let you lay down on her(I caught a puppy on top of her one day(couldn't get the camera in time).

[sulphurfire]

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[spex4me]

Cute ! I lover her name even if it stems from a bad habit. She looks like a sweet baby, it is odd to think she could trigger that fast just by being tied. Good luck with whatever you decide to try.

[TBLADY]

awwww shes so cute!