Pre race build-ups

[Roger]

What are your feelings on these? I've talked race track vets and trainers and no one can say for sure that they really help a fit horse who is getting what he needs everyday in his feed bucket. Most use a combination of B vitamins, vitamin C and some form of iron. What experiences have you had? I have noticed a let down period after large B1 dosages and maybe that period gives the horse time build and store energy?

[kezeli]

I always loved these, the horses feel great within half hour of getting them and it targets what they loose during a race so I didn't notice a Let down they seemed to come back from a tough race better I always thought.

[ratherrapid]

Roger, "pre-race build up" seems anachronistic given the current state of knowledge in sports nutrition. There are numerous legal supplemenents that can affect performance in various ways. A superior discussion of what's available can be found at T-Nation.com.

[Roger]

Roger, "pre-race build up" seems anachronistic given the current state of knowledge in sports nutrition. There are numerous legal supplemenents that can affect performance in various ways. A superior discussion of what's available can be found at T-Nation.com.

I'll have to check on "anachronistic" to see if I've been insulted, but www.T-Nation.com took me to a muscle building site called Testosterone.muscle. Is that where I can look for prerace build-ups?

[ratherrapid]

zero insults intended. that website has plethora of information regarding the latest research on sports nutrition and performance enhancement by nutrition includding pre and post workout nutrition i'mhappy to see your post wish more of this would be discussed. what products have people used, the efffect, etc.

[majxmom]

I used one of those nutritional ones that Tom Ivers was selling about 10 years ago. It had directions that made it all scientific about how many minutes before post time to feed it. I used it three times to give it a fair test. It didn't do squat, as near as I could tell. We used it because the mare seemed to be tailing off in her performance, running fourths and fifths instead of seconds and thirds, so it may not have been the fairest test subject, but the whole point was to see if it would pick her up. And it seemed awfully sugary, which scared me as I was feeding about a cup of it, as I recall. Don't really want to feed a horse that much sugar; can't be good for their feet. Man, I was really scared it would test the first time. What was I going to tell the stewards, Tom promised everything was ok? But we did get tested and nothing happened. I don't think there was much to it.

I think regular vitamins work good enough. Excesses are NOT good for a horse. I once picked up a nice colt that the owner had poisoned with too much Red Cell. I put him on plain hay for three weeks and the curly coat went away and he looked like a million bucks.

[kezeli]

The stuff we used was called amino-plex it was I.V. solution of amino acids, electrolytes and B complex. It really worked, everybody that got it looked like a horse on the first brisk fall morning going out for a turn-out. They draged me both to and from the track, cooled out fine and ate like pigs. Always started to dapple out after too.(maybe it was just increased fitness) :wink:

[karenkarenn]

I think in order to say that it works you would need to see what your horse NEEDS, rather than what he SHOULD be getting.

I love taking my B Vitamins its water solubule ( SP) Provided that there is water to be given and its a quick reaction. But Iron is a slow disolving-- but does the horse really need more Iron than what he/ she has?

Do you have a vet that can run tests to determine what is necessary?
Karen