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training issues with Appendix Colt grandson of Officer

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:13 pm
by Brookec
its been a while since i have posted on here but i have a colt well as of today gelding that is stumping me. He is a Grandson of Officer out of a Old jet deck line mare. (QH) wanting to send him to the track but have had 2 trainers send him back after bucking issues. he has really only had about 5 rides of which he was able to buck somone off each time! and these are seasoned riders. Does the Officer line have anything that sticks out as hard to train? I have had 5 others foals off this mare 2 winners on the track and 2 in barrel futurities and NO buckers! since he has been back on the farm he has a new farrier had chiro work done and now he is gelded!! any suggestions on a trainer in my area that handled bronc type starting LOL. yes but seriously stumped! I live on the alabama Tennessee state line and would love to see him race.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:52 am
by TJ
Hi Brookec,
You have a PM. TJ

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:13 am
by madelyn
He might need one of those "Mustang Makeover" type horsemen. I don't know any down that far - E'town or Lebanon Junction maybe. These guys can usually work miracles in 30-60 days.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:57 pm
by photofinish
Honestly, 5 rides is nowhere enough training before going to the track, or were all 5 rides at the track? I never take one to the racetrack until they have had 60 days of breaking and galloping at the farm. At least 45 rides. Minimum. Good Luck!

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:30 am
by xfactor fan
What was the report from the chiropractor? Were any major soarness or sensitivity issues found? Ditto from the farrier?

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:19 am
by griff
You have already taken the first step.

And Madelyn's suggestion should be, in my opinion, next in line. I know a trainer in MD that will have him leading with a slack line within an hour and walking across a wooden bridge under saddle with in a month.

But Maryland is s long haul..

One last suggestion; stop feeding him grain and put him on free choie quality non alalfa hay while you are getting him under control. That will not hurt him, and will take the edge off. He may even gain weight with hay and exercise

griff

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:03 pm
by ratherrapid
Brookec--as the above--the horse needs to be trained under saddle. can be done at the race track provided there's somebody there that specializes in breaking youngsters, or a trainer willing to under take the job. Otherwise, put ur rider up, hold the horse and get him used to something on his back. I recommend long reigning. I'd be more worried if it were doing anything other than bucking someone off in that environment. see how to train young horses here:
http://www.racinghorsesbook.com/

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:13 pm
by LKR
ratherrapid, I assume you have read this book??? Apparently, you think it has merit??

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:22 pm
by ratherrapid
I have, and, it's excellent. Packed with info including detailed description and photos of O'Gorman's method of breaking yearlings. I've tried the method, and it's excellent. First time in my memory I was never dumped by the horse, and, with my present two to date, same deal, knocking on wood.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:31 am
by griff
Found "BUCK" on Netflix a week ago and watched a second time last night

Highly recommend the video for horses people and horseless people

griff