Louis's Blog on Inbreeding

[ElPrado]

And he is breeding on so well, being that he is a gelding. I thought you weren't tracking the geldings?

[diomed]

Here it comes: Bodemeister is a FB...
Any second now...

[louis finochio]

I am doing 2 different studies, One includes G, the other does not.

[BenB]

Just one left,

This is how the NFB,s makes so many starts read the article:

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ray-s ... -positive/

And yep the ped:http://www.pedigreequery.com/cheatin+cowboy

notice the perfect name for the horse.

[louis finochio]

The cheeters will always try to outfox the fox. Just ban them for life.

[louis finochio]

DAY DREAM GIRL (USA) dkb/br. F, 2010 DP = 6-4-12-0-0 (22) DI = 2.67 CD = 0.73 - 1 Starts, 0 Wins, 0 Places, 0 Shows Career Earnings: $2,160

DAY DREAM GIRL br. F, 2010
Dehere---Domenicas Dream, by Woodman

DDG was pulled up after wire & fell fracturing leg. EOT

DDG was a NFB being inbred 4 X 5 ND
DDG is another NFB that inherited the same Ph. stallions & mares that have caused an inherited weakness for injuries in those FB.

These are those Ph. individuals, that are found in DDG pedigree.

Nearctic, Nasrullah, Native Dancer, Tom Fool, Hail to Reason, ND 2 crosses, Buckpasser, RAN, Bold Ruler, Secretariat, Mr. P., Gold Digger, Natalma.

DDG had 24 crosses Ph. stallions & 15 crosses Ph. mares.

[louis finochio]

The following stallions have passed on their stamina to Frankel.

Prince John, Stage Door Johnny=Prince Rose
Herbager=Dark Ronald
Ribot=Rabelais
Agio, Lombard=Teddy
Nearco, Nearctic, Rainbow Quest, Sadlers Wells, Native Dancer=Ph.

Frankel has inherited a balance of speed thru Ph. & stamina of NP.

[DDT]

Louis

I believe the following mares may also have contributed to Frankel's stamina

Urban Sea
Kind
Rockfest
Razyana

Frankel's status as a Fashion Bred has not hindered him in becoming the world's number 1 rated horse.

DDT

[BenB]

8 gr 1,s, the best horsesince a long time, better than dancing brave.

He is racing clean, his trainer is an horseman, he does not rush the horse all is coming at the time. and he is racing over big hilly left handed turf tracks with mostly 1 bend and an long straight.

ND 3x4 Natalma 4x5x5 HTR 1x etc Native dancer through ND.

This will result in lots of breeding with the next patron 4x5x5 ND or even more. Like 3x4x4x4.

He is advocating much more inbreeding while he is appealing.

Bye Bye Louis.

[ElPrado]

Good idea, Ben. Now he can sit in here and talk to himself.

[louis finochio]

For every Frankel, there are many imposters, that cant make the class grade. I wont guess how many FB matings failed to lite the fuse. On a FB curve, those matings are creating boys to do the work of men. Congrats to Frankel's breeder, in the breeding of a Champion.

[BenB]

That is likewise, there are failing 100 000 horse to produce one top horse, but it keeps appealing, and he has made a name for himself racing as an four yr old.

So your theory, or opinion, will face stiff opposition from others than me.

Overhere we do not train young three year olds in pieces.

I,ll have another gone Union Rags gone, Bodemeister gone, hansen gone,

Paynter remains to be seem. A large part from this group is coming from the santa anita track btw and californian race medication rules.

So long

[louis finochio]

RIDAN (USA) b. H, 1959 DP = 10-2-9-1-0 (22) DI = 3.00 CD = 0.95 - 23 Starts, 13 Wins, 6 Places, 2 Shows Career Earnings: $635,074

Winnings: 23 Starts: 13 - 6 - 2, $635,074

At 2:
1st: Arlington Futurity, Washington Park Futurity, Hyde Park S, Prairie State S. At 3:
1st: Florida Derby, Arlington Classic, Blue Grass S, Hibiscus S.
3rd: Kentucky Derby
At 4:
1st: Palm Beach H.



U.S. Champion 2 yr-old.
Set a new track record at Keeneland, 4f in 0:48 1/5.
Sent to Ireland in 1973.
Sent to Australia in 1976 - only stood one season.
Ridan got his unusual name because he reminded his owners of champion Nadir, whom they also raced. Ridan is Nadir spelled backwards.

RIDAN b. H, 1959
Nantallah---Rough Shod, by Gold Bridge

R was a NFB being inbred 5 X 5 Sir Gallahad III=Teddy---5 X 5 Orby=Orby---3 X 5 Blandford=Swynford

R was bred froma NFB mating of Ph. over Orby
R had 15 crosses NP stallions, out of a possible 16
R had 16 crosses NP mares out of a possible 16

This was the way our tbs were bred before the arrival of those FB in the mid 80s.
In R time our tbs inherited their soundness from their prolific crosses of NP sire lines. They were not injured in great numbers in their 2 & 3 yr. old season like our FB in the present.

[louis finochio]

Ben: I welcome my critics, as i like competition, it brings out the best of me. There are many roads that lead to Rome, those breeders that dont dig deep enough, are missing the pieces of the puzzle.

[DDT]

Louis

You think that posters on this thread want to compete with you and your theories, that might explain your need to post the same information over and over and over. Frankel is a once in a lifetime horse, maybe a once in a century horse, who knows, he is classified as a Fashion Bred according to your theory.

As to "lite the fuse" and Fashion Bred failures, according to Equibase figures, in 2011 there were 65,999 starters, only 1,317 of those starters earned 100K or more. 4,834 of those starters earned 50K or more during the racing year. It depends on your definition of success versus failure, but in my opinion these numbers are an indication that there are many more failures than superior runners be they Fashion Bred or Non-Fashion Bred.

DDT