Louis's Blog on Inbreeding

[parlo]

.... and the merry-go-rould and the spinning-wheel are going on - assumptions presented as real fact, but there are no proofs and there will be no proofs.

But we know by now: there is no difference between "Louis-FB" and "Louis-NFB". The different classes make no differences in performance.

[louis finochio]

The difference is soundness, those NFB are averaging more lifetime starts.

[parlo]

What I say: it's just a never ending merry-go-round here.

If we delete all those sentences repeated hundreds of times in cycles, this thread will be shortened by some 150 pages- but no contents would be lost.

[BenB]

If only all the Louis one liner remarks would be taken off, it might even become readable.

Thanks to the posting from others than Louis.

[BenB]

This one made 45 sts and is an half to concier

http://www.pedigreequery.com/port+royal12 Inbred to Phalaris. Same dam.

[louis finochio]

PORT ROYAL (USA) ch. G, 2004 DP = 3-3-29-1-0 (36) DI = 1.32 CD = 0.22 - 46 Starts, 7 Wins, 9 Places, 9 Shows Career Earnings: $235,965

Owner: Western Resources Racing and Jacobson, Douglas
Breeder: Ol Memorial Stable
State Bred: KY
Winnings: 46 Starts: 7 - 9 - 9, $235,965

Foaled Mar. 24, 2004.
$225K KEESEPT'05

PORT ROYAL ch. G, 2004
Giants Causeway---Kris Pit, by Kris S

PR is a type 2 FB being inbred 3 X 4 Roberto---4 X 4 Secretariat---4 X 5 Hail to Reason---5 X 5 Somethingroyal=Prince Rose NP outcross

Roberto & his son Kris S BMS of PR, have prolific crosses of NP stallions & mares. Kris S & Roberto are not found inside the curve of unsoundness, both of them bring their soundness into this FB mating.

[parlo]

This is really a fool's game - @Administrators, please shut down this foolish, ridiculous nonsense, that is a disgrace and a shame for this forum:

If a "Louis-FB" does more than 9 starts, then it's those NFB-mares that bring the soundness into this breeding.

If a "Louis-NFB" breaks down or has a different unsoundness-issue, it's those "FB"-elements, that are "inside the curve of unsoundness", which are responsible for that unsoundness.

You can turn the coin on either side - Louis is always top!

What a great research - the first tb-breeding-theory, which is correct 100 %in any curcumstances, is finally discovered.

Award him an Oscar for best comedy in the tb-industry.

[louis finochio]

FORT LARNED (USA) b. C, 2008 DP = 9-10-13-0-0 (32) DI = 3.92 CD = 0.88 - 17 Starts, 7 Wins, 2 Places, 0 Shows Career Earnings: $881,236

Owner: Janis R. Whitham
Breeder: Janis R. Whitham
State Bred: KY
Winnings: 17 Starts: 7 - 2 - 0, $881,236

At 4:
Won Whitney Invitational H. (G1,Sar,9f), Skip Away S. (G3,GP,9.5f), Prairie Meadows Cornhusker H. (G3,PrM,9f), Challenger S. (Tam,8.5f)
2nd Alysheba S. (G2,CD,8.5f)

FORT LARNED b. C, 2008
E Dubai---Arlucea, by Broad Brush

FL is a type 1 FB, being inbred 4 X 5 Nashua---5 X 5 Fleet Nasrullah---5 X 5 Turn-to

FL has 11 crosses NP stallions & 20 crosses NP mares
FL dam traces to the male line of Domino, in this Ph. over Domino FB mating.

FL has inherited prolific numbers of NP & Ph. stallions that are not seen with consistence in GR SW, they are:

Right of Way, Good Manners, Consultants Bid, Fleet Nasrullah, Brigadier Gerrard, Lord at War, General=Ph.

Armageddon, Battle Joined, Ack Ack=Domino
Speak John, Verbatim=Prince Rose
Con Brio=Rock Sand

[BenB]

Turn-to a source from unsoundness is doubled in the ped from the fore last horse, so how can that given an sound horse? Pull my head off

[BenB]

What about this one, also an half to two fore mentioned horses.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/polo+argentina

There are some others which I will post also.

[BenB]

Another one from the same dam :

http://www.pedigreequery.com/young+glory

more to come

[BenB]

this one went down at del mar:

NFB http://www.pedigreequery.com/elivette2.

Looks to photo include and note the pasterns.

[louis finochio]

Turn-to is a source of unsoundness, when you have a balance of NP sire lines, it cancels the unsoundness of TT.

[BenB]

CONCIER (USA) b. C, 2009 DP = 1-5-9-1-0 (16) DI = 1.91 CD = 0.38 - 5 Starts, 1 Wins, 3 Places, 0 Shows Career Earnings: $13,328

Owner: Tom E. Ramsey
Breeder: Don M. Robinson, John Donaldson & Oxford Farm
State Bred: KY
Winnings: 5 Starts: 1 - 3 - 0, $13,328

CONCIER b. C, 2009
Discreet Cat---Kris Pit, by Kris S

C was a NFB being inbred 4 X 5 Secretariat
C had a heart attack while working
C had the same Ph. stallions that have caused cardio problems, they are:

Bold Ruler, RAN, Nashua, Turn-to, Buckpasser, Secretariat 2 crosses, ND, Hail to Reason, Mr. P., Storm Cat, Gold Digger.

Another NFB that had an inherited weakness, thru the same Ph. individuals.

So mating turn to with ND and Hail to reason gives at once a sound horses. Louis please your common sense instead of your one liner show

[louis finochio]

ELIVETTE (USA) dkb/br. F, 2009 DP = 6-1-9-0-0 (16) DI = 2.56 CD = 0.81 - 11 Starts, 3 Wins, 0 Places, 3 Shows Career Earnings: $31,430

Owner: Robert A. Cass Jr.
Breeder: VIP Thoroughbreds
State Bred: CA
Winnings: 11 Starts: 3 - 0 - 3, $31,430


Sadly Broke Down and had to be Euthanized in Race 8 at Del Mar on 8-3-2012. RIP

ELIVETTE br. F, 2009---2012
Van Nestelroov---Music and Magic, by Capote

E was a typed 1 FB, being inbred 5 X 5 Natalma--5 X 5 Nearctic--4 X 4 X 5 ND.

E inherited 21 Ph. stallions & 12 Ph. mares
E had the same Ph. individuals that have contributed to the most injuries & breakdowns, inside the curve of unsoundness. They are:

ND 3 crosses---Nasrullah, Boldnesian, Nearctic 2 crosses, Turn-to, Bold Ruler, Secretariat, Hail to Reason, Storm Cat. Natalma 2 crosses.